Final Predictions: Williams-Martinez, Part Deux

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  • IMDAZED
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    #101
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    I dont think he was really fatigued, Pavlik actually did quite well in those rounds. He kinda sussed his rhythm and started timing him with the jab. But when Sexy turned up the heat, it was a wrap.
    I thought he was. Fatigue is why those jabs that were missing started landing. But whatever. It's a moot point. Hopefully Saturday is a good one.

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    • uncle_ray
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      #102
      I can't believe people are worried about sergios conditioning remember pwill looked very bad against cintron. PWill to see me atleast has been slipping a bit, and sergio seems to be on top of his game. That being said I think Pwills power will really come thru the second time. Williams 11th tko

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      • Mikhnienko
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        #103
        Originally posted by savorduhflavor
        I think it'll be just as close as the first one.

        The difference, again, will be Williams' work rate. Judges love guys who keep throwing, and if the round is a toss up they tend to lean towards the guy who threw more.

        I got PWilly by razor thin, debatable, decision again.
        Originally posted by Dan...
        Fan of both guys, rooting for Martinez because I want to see a trilogy but actually picking Williams to win by a close UD. I just think the volume will be the difference again. Sergio will look better at times throughout the fight and will land the cleaner punches but Williams will just get a lot of work done, and I don't think Martinez has what it takes to match Williams' pace. Should be a good fight.
        Originally posted by Walt Liquor
        sergio wasn't all that hard for paul to find either.

        In the first Quintana fight PW averaged about 50 punches per round cuz Quintana used his lateral movement, kept turning PW, didn't let him get set and Paul couldn't get off cuz Carlos simply wasn't there to be hit. To say that Quintana is a poor man's Martinez is an understatement.

        Sergio elected to stand and trade will PW alot of the time which is something he doesn't have to do. If he uses his footwork PW's workrate will be a non factor.


        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        Yeah, that's what I don't get. Like...umm, did you see the last fight? Both of them were in deep water! That was a rough fight. Martinez didn't outbox anybody easily when they met last year. ****, his face was pretty lumped up at the end. I can see Martinez hurting PW with one shot and going for the kill. But if he can't do that, I think he's in for a long night.
        He chose not to, it wasn't on account of Williams brilliance. Martinez had the odd bump and bruise but looked essentially unscathed after the fight, PW looked like someone went to work on his face with a baseball bat. Don't kid yourself, Martinez inflicted alot more damage than PW did.

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        • puga
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          #104
          williams by decision......i think it'll be close again but clearer win for pwill this time.......

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            #105
            Originally posted by Mikhnienko
            He chose not to, it wasn't on account of Williams brilliance. Martinez had the odd bump and bruise but looked essentially unscathed after the fight, PW looked like someone went to work on his face with a baseball bat. Don't kid yourself, Martinez inflicted alot more damage than PW did.

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            • IMDAZED
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              #106
              Originally posted by Mikhnienko

              He chose not to, it wasn't on account of Williams brilliance. Martinez had the odd bump and bruise but looked essentially unscathed after the fight, PW looked like someone went to work on his face with a baseball bat. Don't kid yourself, Martinez inflicted alot more damage than PW did.
              I don't think he "chose" not to. Not after getting rocked in the fourth. There were times in the middle rounds where Williams was chasing him around the ring. He moved quite a bit but perhaps his older legs weren't quite as spry as Quintana's. He stood in the trenches because he had to. Nevertheless, I agree that Martinez landed the harder blows and did more damage, particularly in the early rounds and in the eighth. But watching the fight again, Martinez was pretty lumped up himself. Some of those exchanges were just brutal.

              Anyway, I don't know who's going to win. I can see Martinez one-punching Williams to obscurity. And I can see Williams wearing him down to a decision or even a late stoppage. Possibilities are endless here.

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              • The Hammer
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                #107
                If he brings his "A" game, I think Paul Williams will win by stoppage in a later round.

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                  #108
                  It will be as close as the first fight, maybe not as brutal, and Martinez will get the nod so they have to fight a third fight.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Mikhnienko
                    In the first Quintana fight PW averaged about 50 punches per round cuz Quintana used his lateral movement, kept turning PW, didn't let him get set and Paul couldn't get off cuz Carlos simply wasn't there to be hit. To say that Quintana is a poor man's Martinez is an understatement.

                    Sergio elected to stand and trade will PW alot of the time which is something he doesn't have to do. If he uses his footwork PW's workrate will be a non factor.




                    He chose not to, it wasn't on account of Williams brilliance. Martinez had the odd bump and bruise but looked essentially unscathed after the fight, PW looked like someone went to work on his face with a baseball bat. Don't kid yourself, Martinez inflicted alot more damage than PW did.




                    Did you read his mind? Martinez didn't "use his legs" all 12 rounds because he couldnt. Why would he "choose" to take punishment and make it harder on himself? That's just ******. When Martinez stopped moving it was because he was tired. Paul Williams deserves some credit for that. It wasn't a one way fight for in favor of Martinez like you seem to think it was. And the Quintana fight was years ago. Time to let it go. Or I guess we can also talk about Martinez getting stopped by Margarito.
                    Last edited by joseph5620; 11-16-2010, 09:28 PM.

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                    • Mikhnienko
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by joseph5620
                      Did you read his mind? Martinez didn't "use his legs" all 12 rounds because he couldnt. Why would he choose to take punishment and make it harder on himself. That's just ******. And the Quintana fight was years ago. Time to let it go. Or I guess we can also talk about Martinez getting stopped by Margarito.
                      I agree that Martinez tired later in the fight but very early on he was standing and trading with Williams, not something had to do. In the first half on the fight it wasn't as exciting as it was on account of PW sucsessfully cutting off the ring and forcing Martinez into exchanges, Sergio decided that on his own.

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