Final Predictions: Williams-Martinez, Part Deux

[IMDAZED]

I agree that Martinez tired later in the fight but very early on he was standing and trading with Williams, not something had to do. In the first half on the fight it wasn't as exciting as it was on account of PW sucsessfully cutting off the ring and forcing Martinez into exchanges, Sergio decided that on his own.

That's cool. You're basically saying that early on Martinez decided to stand and trade then thought better of it...or, really didn't have a choice because he was fatigued and Williams wouldn't stop coming. Well, that's when Williams had his success. And I don't think it was in Martinez' plan to give Williams success.

[joseph5620]

I agree that Martinez tired later in the fight but very early on he was standing and trading with Williams, not something had to do. In the first half on the fight it wasn't as exciting as it was on account of PW sucsessfully cutting off the ring and forcing Martinez into exchanges, Sergio decided that on his own.

Both fighters had some success doing what they wanted to do. But it's clear your intent is to give Paul Williams no credit for Martinez fatigue or the punishment he also took. It wasn't a one sided fight no matter how you much you want create a fictional one.

[Iceta Lives]

When I've seen pics of Martinez training I saw that he had real good hand speed even though he looks like he needs to cut a little more weight. When I watched Paul Williams' pad work it just seemed lazy to me. Martinez just seems a lot faster. I really can't make a prediction in this fight. If it's close, I think they'll give it to Williams again, but I think he'll have to revisit the pits of hell to get another win over Sergio.

[Mikhnienko]

That's cool. You're basically saying that early on Martinez decided to stand and trade then thought better of it...or, really didn't have a choice because he was fatigued and Williams wouldn't stop coming. Well, that's when Williams had his success. And I don't think it was in Martinez' plan to give Williams success.

That's how i see the seond half of the fight.

The first half when Martinez was fresh my impression was that after a few exchanges he knew PW didn't have the power to bother him and he thought he was getting the better of them (as did i due to him landing cleaner harder punches) so he elcted to trade.

It doesn't make sense otherwise, in my mind at least, since Martinez was/is able to "box" PW if he wants to ala Quintana I. *(not sure if i used the ala thing correct lol)

[IMDAZED]

That's how i see the seond half of the fight.

The first half when Martinez was fresh my impression was that after a few exchanges he knew PW didn't have the power to bother him and he thought he was getting the better of them (as did i due to him landing cleaner harder punches) so he elcted to trade.

It doesn't make sense otherwise, in my mind at least, since Martinez was/is able to "box" PW if he wants to ala Quintana I. *(not sure if i used the ala thing correct lol)

The fight began to to turn in the fourth round, so I don't know about the "first half" of the bout. Martinez was rocked pretty bad toward the end of the fourth and lost most of the middle rounds. I really don't know what point you're trying to make but it was a great, tough, close fight. We can only hope we see anything close to that again.

[Mikhnienko]

The fight began to to turn in the fourth round, so I don't know about the "first half" of the bout. Martinez was rocked pretty bad toward the end of the fourth and lost most of the middle rounds. I really don't know what point you're trying to make but it was a great, tough, close fight. We can only hope we see anything close to that again.

I got it in my VHS (i know) right now, going to score it again and everything. I'll make note of the momentum for each guy and rounds Martinez in particular tires.

[IMDAZED]

I got it in my VHS (i know) right now, going to score it again and everything. I'll make note of the momentum for each guy and rounds Martinez in particular tires.

Any luck?

BTW, I'm starting to lean toward Williams but I'm saving my pick until after the weigh-in.

[Toney616]

Martinez by decision. He basically figured out Pauls style in the first fight. This fight he gives Paul a beatdown

[IMDAZED]

Martinez by decision. He basically figured out Pauls style in the first fight. This fight he gives Paul a beatdown

I'll bet with you, bud. (If I stick to this pick).

[Carpe Diem]

Stephen Moyer by Decision. I think if he can control the pace of the fight early on, he'll beat Williams.