Pacquiao not only ranked higher P4P than Mayweather, now ranked higher at 147 too....

[Dave Rado]

of course use an extreme comparison to make a point it just makes your point mean nothing, calderon bein probably the smallest fighter and vitali bein the biggest but i guess thats what people do when they don't have a logical rebuttal

You said weight means nothing, so it's perfectly valid to use an extreme example to make the point that it does mean something. Your statement that I was responding to was an extreme statement.

[Dave Rado]

That means i could weigh 135 at the weigh in but fight at jr mw and be ranked at lightweight. That doesn't make sense at all.

Marquez didn't lose his Lightweight ranking when he fought at Welterweight. And if he had fought and beaten Mayweather while weighing less than 135, which he didn't, then that would certainly have enhanced his Lightweight rating.

You can't get a Lightweight ranking without beating top Lightweights. But you can enhance your existing Lightweight ranking if you can also beat bigger fighters (depending on the quality of those fighters), while still weighing under 135.

[Dave Rado]

dave, u just said that he got #1 after clottey, which is it?

You didn't read my post properly. I said that when Cotto beat Clottey that made the Jennings fight irrelevant. Pac got his #1 ranking when he beat Cotto, and I never said anything different.

And i never said cotto wasn't a top welter. I said that manny shouldn't be ranked #1 by just beating cotto or clottey for that matter.

There is no justifying this, this is some bull

Being ranked #1 after completely demolishing the man who beat Mosley and who was ranked #2 at the time is perfectly easy to justify. I have no problem whatsoever with those who ranked Mosley at #1, but to say there's no argument for Pac being #1 just shows you're ridiculously biased.

[Dave Rado]

after his 1-2 year layoff , didn't floyd get ranked #3 at WW after beating jmm?

LOL! Good point.

[crold1]

They didn't give a bullshit reason at all. They gave three extremely sensible reasons. And it was voted on by their ratings panel of 39 boxing experts, who don't work for The Ring (including Cliff Rold of boxingscene), and their ratings panel voted against (including Cliff).

The #1 vs. the #3 can only be for the lineal title in exceptional circumstances. There were three reasons why they didn't consider this to be an exceptional circumstance.

1) Margarito was clearly ducking Williams, who had been ranked #2 by The Ring before he moved up in weight, who had only recently moved up solely because he couldn't get a meaningful fight at Welterweight, and who had offered Margarito a lot more money to fight him at Welterweight in January 2009 than Margarito was offered to fight Mosley in that month (he was offered $4 million to fight Williams and only $2.4 million to fight Mosley).

2) There was no reason why the Margarito-Mosley winner couldn't fight Cotto in their next fight for the lineal title.

3) Given that #2 ranked fighter, Cotto, had recently beaten the #3 ranked fighter, Mosley, it made sense that if Mosley beat Marg, there should be a Cotto-Mosley rematch, before a new champion could be crowned.

I agree with all three reasons.

I actually, at the time, voted for it on the grounds that, if Margarito won, with Williams out of class, he'd have had a clean out. I did not think the Margo win alone was enough for Shane but it made him #1 in class until beaten. As can be noted in the BoxingScene ratings, I believe that the win over Mosley was enough to restart Floyd's lineal claim at Welter.

[shogun1123]

Ring Magazine has zero credibility for this dumbass move.

You beat a fighter that got demolished in his previous and you get to move up in the rankings, WOW.

[Maidana vs Rios]

after his 1-2 year layoff , didn't floyd get ranked #3 at WW after beating jmm?

Nope.








#2!

http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1128/ring_ratings_update_does_mayweather_deserve_his_ring_rankings_/

[R.M {7}]

LOL, PBF taking a lot of Ls lately.

[AFighter4U]

how?don't you think if it was like that more fighters would do the same thing?

If it was that easy, then EVERYONE would be doing it. I'm not good at boxing history, so can anyone tell me of any other fighter who came in ONE WEIGHT CLASS LOWER at weigh in than the weight class their supposed to be fighting at?