More dangerous opponent for Pacquiao: Margarito or Berto? Official Poll!

[jrosales13]

Why limit your options to 24 months when Marg has been campaigning at WW at the elite level for more than 4 years.

Mosley was out for 15 months and everybody thought that May-Mosley was a competitive fight. Why cant this one??

Well then let just limit from coming back for suspension.

Because, of how Shane looked in his last fight, against a top WW. Should we do the same for Marg?

Lets see how he looked like against a journeyman JMW?

[Russian Crushin]

He's a champ,him vs Berto is a unification,he's undefeated & hasn't been suspected of cheating,Ur post tells me nothing but thanks anyway!!Legit doesn't necessarily means tougher,it means legit,a fight that won't be seen as a sham,Margarito-Pacman at 150 for a 154 title is a sham,period!!

Who gives a ***** about this

Its like your trying to tell me that when floyd fought baldimor, it was the most legit fight but that wasnt even close to the BEST fight

[Aut_72]

Is obvious you have never seen Marg fight.

Lets see in his last 6 fights... his most notables... Paul Williams, Cotto and Mosley... What did he do in the first 5-6 rounds with those 3... he got schooled, he starts way to slow, maybe you can understand it that way. That was what i wanted to say... Pac would do the same only that he won't slow down

[jrosales13]

Hard to say, but as of right now Imma go with Margarito cause he's bigger, stronger, has a good chin an is more proven, Berto hasnt been tested but he definatly has the speed an foot work to beat manny, he's just not proven yet so untill i see him fight sum1 that is a great fighter i cant put him over Margarito.

He might have that, but how does that beat Manny? Especially since Manny can match his speed and foot work. Manny might even be better in those areas.

Berto doesn't really counter punch, doesn't seem to have a boxing IQ, and chin is most definitely a question mark.

[mikemurni]

He's a champ,him vs Berto is a unification,he's undefeated & hasn't been suspected of cheating,Ur post tells me nothing but thanks anyway!!Legit doesn't necessarily means tougher,it means legit,a fight that won't be seen as a sham,Margarito-Pacman at 150 for a 154 title is a sham,period!!

Exactly, Berto is a unified/undefeated fighter who hasn't been tested in the elite level at 147.. Pac's legitimacy to beat Berto would probably be true, but that doesn't translate in him in being a more competitive opponent for Pac. Who would win in a fight now between Marg and Berto. Because I certainly go for Marg because I have seen him in fights against Williams and Cotto.. I cant say the same for Berto though...

[-GDS-]

Who gives a ***** about this

Its like your trying to tell me that when floyd fought baldimor, it was the most legit fight but that wasnt even close to the BEST fight

True, and you know that Floyd got plenty of $#it for that, but at least Baldomir was a top ranked fighter in the division. The lineal champ I believe. Where as 3 guys would had been better welter opponents for Pac, and many JMW's would had been a whole lot better opponents than Marg. But those JMWs would had beaten Pac if they weren't drained, so they weren't chosen.

[mikemurni]

Well then let just limit from coming back for suspension.

Because, of how Shane looked in his last fight, against a top WW. Should we do the same for Marg?

Lets see how he looked like against a journeyman JMW?

And yet you forgot to mention how Mosley looked against a punching bag in Mayorga or how he was defeated by Cotto two fights back (from the Marg fight).

[jrosales13]

Lets see in his last 6 fights... his most notables... Paul Williams, Cotto and Mosley... What did he do in the first 5-6 rounds with those 3... he got schooled, he starts way to slow, maybe you can understand it that way. That was what i wanted to say... Pac would do the same only that he won't slow down

Schooled? Except for Mosley he was putting in work. Yes he starts slow, but he also puts in work in those early rounds that benefit him late in the fight. Especially in a 12 round fight. In the both P-Will and Cotto fights he was going to the body early, and putting pressure. That is why he "schooled" them late in the fight cuz of the work he was putting in early.

If you really watch closely you would understand that.

That is how he dominated Cintron, yes is Cintron but nobody has really dominated Cintron in the first half of the fight like Marg has. Marg does stuff, that a casual eye like yourself can't tell. You need to know WTF you're watching so you could realize, the pressure he puts early on, makes you fight more than you want early on, the body work he does early on. All of his fights has been like that except for Mosley.

[JayDee2700]

He might have that, but how does that beat Manny? Especially since Manny can match his speed and foot work. Manny might even be better in those areas.

Berto doesn't really counter punch, doesn't seem to have a boxing IQ, and chin is most definitely a question mark.

It mean berto has the speed an foot work to counter manny an even drop him if he hits him right, u gotta understand if you hav good foot work an speed you could counter easy, especially some1 like manny who leaves himself open for a counter. JMM has great foot work, not great speed but he did damage to Manny. N i know Berto is the best counter puncher, n thats due to lack of experiance, but im sure he could counter manny, im not say he could beat him as of this moment cause idk how berto would fair against a top oppent, that y i wish he would have faced Mosley.

[jrosales13]

And yet you forgot to mention how Mosley looked against Mayorga or how he was defeated by Cotto two fights back (from the Marg fight).

Well the Mayorga fight was at 154 and not 147. I thought it was common knowledge that Mosley is not the same fighter at 154 then he is at 147. He always look average at 154 and looks much better at 147.

Just like Marg IMO always looked much better at 147 then he did at 154.

But, anyways yes lets look at their last fights prior.

Shane vs Mayorga

and Marg vs Shane.

Who looked worse? Shane? Really? Come on....