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  • #71
    Originally posted by JayDee2700 View Post
    It mean berto has the speed an foot work to counter manny an even drop him if he hits him right, u gotta understand if you hav good foot work an speed you could counter easy, especially some1 like manny who leaves himself open for a counter. JMM has great foot work, not great speed but he did damage to Manny.
    Because, JMM is a smart, technical, skilled, counter puncher.

    Berto is none of those.

    And, you gotta understand that.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
      Well the Mayorga fight was at 154 and not 147. I thought it was common knowledge that Mosley is not the same fighter at 154 then he is at 147. He always look average at 154 and looks much better at 147.

      Just like Marg IMO always looked much better at 147 then he did at 154.

      But, anyways yes lets look at their last fights prior.

      Shane vs Mayorga

      and Marg vs Shane.

      Who looked worse? Shane? Really? Come on....
      Mayorga is a perfect opponent for Mosley style wise. I mean he couldn't find a better fighter to have a tune up in Mayorga. A fighter who loops his punches, and with no defense. There's a reason why Trinidad,Oscar use Mayorga as a an opponent for their comeback fights..

      Dont you think comparing Mayorga to Shane, as oppose to Shane to Marg is a little bit unfair for Marg, C'mon now...
      Last edited by mikemurni; 11-12-2010, 12:55 PM.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
        Because, JMM is a smart, technical, skilled, counter puncher.

        Berto is none of those.

        And, you gotta understand that.
        OMG!!! Look you act like im saying Berto would do that! I didnt say that I said he ha the SKILLS!!!! KEYWORD!! SKILLS! to do that! U asked me how does speed an foot work beat manny?

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        • #74
          Originally posted by mikemurni View Post
          Mayorga is a perfect opponent for Mosley style wise. I mean he couldn't find a better fighter to have a tune up in Mayorga. A fighter who loops his punches, and with no defense. There's a reason why Trinidad,Oscar, and Vargas use Mayorga as a an opponent for their comeback fights..

          Dont you think comparing Mayorga to Shane, as oppose to Shane to Marg is a little bit unfair for Marg, C'mon now...
          But, it was at 154 again, not 147.

          Ok should we compare then Shane against Mayorga at 154 to Marg at 154 against Garcia?

          I don't know why you even bought up Shane? Like if I am some kind of Floyd fan or something.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by JayDee2700 View Post
            OMG!!! Look you act like im saying Berto would do that! I didnt say that I said he ha the SKILLS!!!! KEYWORD!! SKILLS! to do that! U asked me how does speed an foot work beat manny?
            Berto has great speed and footwork?

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
              Who gives a ***** about this

              Its like your trying to tell me that when floyd fought baldimor, it was the most legit fight but that wasnt even close to the BEST fight
              Originally posted by mikemurni View Post
              Exactly, Berto is a unified/undefeated fighter who hasn't been tested in the elite level at 147.. Pac's legitimacy to beat Berto would probably be true, but that doesn't translate in him in being a more competitive opponent for Pac. Who would win in a fight now between Marg and Berto. Because I certainly go for Marg because I have seen him in fights against Williams and Cotto.. I cant say the same for Berto though...
              I never said anything about the best fight or anything else as far as competitive wise,the fight should be very entertaining,but it's still a ****ing sham,Pacman is going for history if he wins this fight against someone who has been caught cheating,at a catchweight for a vacant strap!!Call the fight a war & let them slugg it out,but not for a title,history making fight,it is a sham,period!!**** Margarito & Berto & Manny for this fight,Cotto,the lesser fighter went to 154 & took the title from a champ,but the greater fighter(Pacman)is fighting Margarito for a title,c'mon now,that's bull****!!

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              • #77
                Originally posted by JayDee2700 View Post
                OMG!!! Look you act like im saying Berto would do that! I didnt say that I said he ha the SKILLS!!!! KEYWORD!! SKILLS! to do that! U asked me how does speed an foot work beat manny?
                But, he doesn't have that.

                His foot work is not even that good. He just has speed and that is it. And, is a very strong. Maybe the strongest WW right now.

                He only chance that he has to beat Pac. Is to have a John Ruiz style, throw real fast punches and try to clinch and hold on for dear life.

                He doesn't have the counter punching ability, the footwork, the smarts, nor the skill to be really able to do what JMM could do.

                He just has hand speed and strength. Pac gets him outta there in 5 rounds.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by puga View Post
                  ss*****....let clottey fight berto and youd see what berto is made of,.....hype!

                  Manny aint **** TRUST me, the dude is all hype...so miss me with that. It'll take a boxer with less skill then berto to beat Pacman. Pac has no skill @ all. He does the same **** over and over, throws those weak ass one two combos, he has no jab, no defense, no head movement.

                  All it takes is a SMART boxer to tie manny up, jab him, tie him up, elbow him a few times, tie him up hit his body. Then in the later rounds jab him from a distance and and put him to sleep. Trust me Pac man is hittable. Berto hand speed is WAYYYYY faster then Manny's. Manny is one of the worst technical fighter i've ever seen. He fights off instinct. Hit me and i'll hit u back.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by PrinceCharlez View Post
                    Manny aint **** TRUST me, the dude is all hype...so miss me with that. It'll take a boxer with less skill then berto to beat Pacman. Pac has no skill @ all. He does the same **** over and over, throws those weak ass one two combos, he has no jab, no defense, no head movement.

                    All it takes is a SMART boxer to tie manny up, jab him, tie him up, elbow him a few times, tie him up hit his body. Then in the later rounds jab him from a distance and and put him to sleep. Trust me Pac man is hittable. Berto hand speed is WAYYYYY faster then Manny's. Manny is one of the worst technical fighter i've ever seen. He fights off instinct. Hit me and i'll hit u back.
                    Dude, you're an idiot.

                    Really how long have you been watching boxing?

                    Who's alt are you?

                    F'ing moron.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                      But, it was at 154 again, not 147.

                      Ok should we compare then Shane against Mayorga at 154 to Marg at 154 against Garcia?

                      I don't know why you even bought up Shane? Like if I am some kind of Floyd fan or something.
                      Style wise, dude. Mosley was suppose to tee of on Mayorga in any weight (147,154, 160).. It is expected of him.

                      I am not bringing Floyd-Mosley fight because I think your are *****. This has nothing to do with Floyd. My point is that you dont determine the fighter's competitiveness in just one fight. You look at the fighters body of work and then make that determination... Garcia was the first fight of Marg after a year of suspension, how do you think he would look?

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