More dangerous opponent for Pacquiao: Margarito or Berto? Official Poll!

[JayDee2700]

But, he doesn't have that.

His foot work is not even that good. He just has speed and that is it. And, is a very strong. Maybe the strongest WW right now.

He only chance that he has to beat Pac. Is to have a John Ruiz style, throw real fast punches and try to clinch and hold on for dear life.

He doesn't have the counter punching ability, the footwork, the smarts, nor the skill to be really able to do what JMM could do.

He just has hand speed and strength. Pac gets him outta there in 5 rounds.

He does hav good foot work i think you should watch sum of his fights again, n i personally think his power is overrated, he's quick as hell tho. N again im not sayn he can beat manny wat i am sayin his he does show that he has the skills to beat him, Manny has a weak body and if you go to his body he's done, non of his last 4 opponets went to the body, Cotto did a little an thats when he was most effective, but other then that evey1 else went head hunting .

[jrosales13]

Style wise, dude. Mosley was suppose to tee of on Mayorga in any weight (147,154, 160).. It is expected of him.

I am not bringing Floyd-Mosley fight because I think your are *****. This has nothing to do with Floyd. My point is that you dont determine the fighter's competitiveness in just one fight. You look at the fighters body of work and then make that determination... Garcia was the first fight of Marg after a year of suspension, how do you think he would look?

No, not any weight. Not everybody is the same. Some people can move up in weight, some people are sluggish when they move up. Doesn't matter who they're fighting if they're sluggish then they're sluggish. Shane track record at 154 has been of average fighter.

And, your point of body of work or last fight is dumb. When you judge body of work is for greatness or HOF status or even rankings. When you want to judge how much a fighter has left, you judge him by his last or 2 or 3 or last fights.

[mikemurni]

I never said anything about the best fight or anything else as far as competitive wise,the fight should be very entertaining,but it's still a ****ing sham,Pacman is going for history if he wins this fight against someone who has been caught cheating,at a catchweight for a vacant strap!!Call the fight a war & let them slugg it out,but not for a title,history making fight,it is a sham,period!!**** Margarito & Berto & Manny for this fight,Cotto,the lesser fighter went to 154 & took the title from a champ,but the greater fighter(Pacman)is fighting Margarito for a title,c'mon now,that's bull****!!

How can it be a sham when the fight like you say is goin' to be entertaining. I mean thats the reason why we buy the PPV's to begin with, right? Anything else is just inconsequential...
The belts are there just there to promote this fight, which is what Top Rank is suppose to do.. But its the nature of the competitiveness for this fight that sells..

[jrosales13]

He does hav good foot work i think you should watch sum of his fights again, n i personally think his power is overrated, he's quick as hell tho. N again im not sayn he can beat manny wat i am sayin his he does show that he has the skills to beat him, Manny has a weak body and if you go to his body he's done, non of his last 4 opponets went to the body, Cotto did a little an thats when he was most effective, but other then that evey1 else went head hunting .

He doesn't have good footwork, I think you should watch some of his fights again.

How does Manny have a weak body? Because, of the JMM fight? Still he wasn't done in that fight. So why do you think he would be done if you go to his body?

And, no he doesn't have the skill to beat Manny. Stop saying that.

[Aut_72]

Schooled? Except for Mosley he was putting in work. Yes he starts slow, but he also puts in work in those early rounds that benefit him late in the fight. Especially in a 12 round fight. In the both P-Will and Cotto fights he was going to the body early, and putting pressure. That is why he "schooled" them late in the fight cuz of the work he was putting in early.

If you really watch closely you would understand that.

That is how he dominated Cintron, yes is Cintron but nobody has really dominated Cintron in the first half of the fight like Marg has. Marg does stuff, that a casual eye like yourself can't tell. You need to know WTF you're watching so you could realize, the pressure he puts early on, makes you fight more than you want early on, the body work he does early on. All of his fights has been like that except for Mosley.

Of course I get the fact that his pressure force his opponents to "blend" down for the later rounds... everybody sees that

But that doesn't change the fact that he gives away those rounds big time, it's not the same when you see guys like Paul Williams, Calzaghe, Hatton etc

Those guys bring pressure without giving away rounds, if you wanna think hes that great so on... but the fact is when he sees a guy like Pacquiao with good movement you will see he should put more pressure on the early rounds instead of hoping Pacquiao folds in later rounds

[mikemurni]

No, not any weight. Not everybody is the same. Some people can move up in weight, some people are sluggish when they move up. Doesn't matter who they're fighting if they're sluggish then they're sluggish. Shane track record at 154 has been of average fighter.

And, your point of body of work or last fight is dumb. When you judge body of work is for greatness or HOF status or even rankings. When you want to judge how much a fighter has left, you judge him by his last or 2 or 3 or last fights.

He looked great against Vargas in the second fight, didn't he?? My point here is not that whether why Mosley looked bad against Mayorga or not.. My point is that if you can dismiss Mosley's bad performance against Mayorga at 154, then why cant you do the same for Marg against Garcia. Considering also that Marg is a career WW who happened to be coming of from a year long suspension??

The body of work I am referring to is his last fights at WW that goes back since 2006 when he was referred to back then as a badass. One fight(Mosley) does not diminish what he is still capable of doin' against elite fighters now...

[danny711]

Berto was life and death with Collazo. Manny would destroy him, but Berto does have the hardware.

[JayDee2700]

He doesn't have good footwork, I think you should watch some of his fights again.

How does Manny have a weak body? Because, of the JMM fight? Still he wasn't done in that fight. So why do you think he would be done if you go to his body?

And, no he doesn't have the skill to beat Manny. Stop saying that.

How would you know he doesn't? seem to me u must b a manny fan so for gettn you all man in **** i know mean to talk ill about ur hubby. Ur right Berto doesnt hav skills he just has a belt cause he's............o yea has no skills n is the hardest hittn WW but yea he has no skill, and is quick as **** but................o yea he hasss no skills hmmmmmm sounds like a h8er to meeee!!!! Berto is a good fighter not gr8, it too early to say plus he has faced a great WW yet, but Berto is definatly a good fighter n throw great hook which Manny is know to take quite offten, if Berto get stamina i c this fight being a slugg fest. N Manny has a weak body all his TKO's hav been shots to the body, and JMM was a excellent demestrator of that, Manny doesnt like being hit in the body, n when you go to manny's body he lowers his hands early which JMM took advantage of, N im not compairing JMM to Berto because Berto is the more athletic fighter where JMM is the smarter fighter.

[JDezi4]

If Berto was a proven veteran, I would say Berto. But since Berto's one stage over being a prospect probably Margarito.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

LOL @ Berto


yeeeeaa...put PAC in there against someone that's a sucker for straight lefts with bad stamina


if it was Berto, PAC could have held his entire training camp in Philippines and i wouldnt be worried