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  • spinksjinx
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    #31
    Originally posted by Bombardier
    What is it about the matchup that bothers you? Is it because they're friends? Is it because Zab is hardly a good test for Floyd? Is it because Floyd's jumping ship at junior welter too early? I agree it's far from the best fight that could be made, but I was curiours about exactly what bugged you about it .

    Agreed that Floyd - Hatton is a must, I'm pretty sure we'll see this sometime in '06. Hatton needs a bit of time to sit on the titles and enjoy himself.

    The fight brings NOTHING to the table, we all know who is the far superior fighter and Zab is easily distracted and easily knocked off. As evident in the Pineda/Spinks and Tszyu fight. This fight is a mismatch almost to the fullest extent. Plus both are flashy fighters and if Zab clowns he will be put on his back....I just dont like the thought of this fight coming off. It does nothing for either fighter, I believe the fight does nothing for them and their is bigger obstacles and better fights out there for both fighters.

    Mayweather should be fighting Hatton and Zab should be fighting Margarito and I **** on Zab for even thinking about making a Mitchell fight when Margarito has already agreed to any terms to make that fight happen. Main Events who promotes Margarito said they would be willing to give Zab almost 70% of the purse to make it happen.

    If Floyd vs Hatton DOESNT happen than both fighters should fight on the same card and set up a match afterwards.

    But we all know Hatton wants Maussa and I think that degrades Hatton as the 140 pound champion.

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    • Kenny Blankenship
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      #32
      I agree that the most money to made on this fight is to have it in the UK. They could sell 35,000 tickets to this fight easily. Can't say that about the US. I don't even think they could sell out MSG for this fight unless a boat load of drunken Englishmen make the trip overseas.
      After the display of grappling, rabbit punching, low blows and clutching displayed in the Hatton-KT fight (not to mention the biased ref), I don't see PBF going to the UK to fight Hatton or anybody else anytime soon.

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      • spinksjinx
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        #33
        Originally posted by Kenny Blankenship
        What are you smoking?
        Mayweather has already beaten both of those guys. He beat Castillo twice! and beat Corrales once, knocking him down 5 times.
        Mayweather vs Judah is a great fight.
        Nobody wants to see PBF vs Castillo or Corrales yet again.

        I disagree Corrales has seemed to ressurect his career with the wins over Castillo and Freitas and Castillo respectively knocked Mayweather off in the first fight by many spectators. Plus Castillo vs Corrales is probably the biggest fight to actually be made in boxing and the winner would be riding high and fighting Mayweather would be a super fight.....Both fighters want Mayweather again anyhow....Remember though Mayweather vs Castillo was no picnic in the park in either fight.

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        • Pooch
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          #34
          Originally posted by Bombardier
          I don't think it would matter to the fighters, no. PPV buys is where the big money is, and they get millions upfront these days no matter how popular the fight is in the end.

          Anyway, I agree with you that this fight could possibly be made in the UK. There have been plenty of bigtime fights outside the States before so as long as things are handled right this one could be as well. But on the other hand I really think that Hatton wants to make his US debut soon, and if Warren can make some favourable arrangement with an American promoter (ie. one where he makes a lot of money) then the fight could be put on in the States.
          im glad you cleard that up then!
          to be fair i dnt really care where it happens as long as it happens but it would probably be best for ricky to fight in the states. that way he gets used to fighting there in front of a mixed crowd (which will prepare him for future fights in the US) and where he is the the main attraction (he fought at MSG on his 2nd pro fight)..........also shut the haters up if he wins!

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          • Bombardier
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            #35
            Originally posted by spinksjinx
            The fight brings NOTHING to the table, we all know who is the far superior fighter and Zab is easily distracted and easily knocked off. As evident in the Pineda/Spinks and Tszyu fight. This fight is a mismatch almost to the fullest extent. Plus both are flashy fighters and if Zab clowns he will be put on his back....I just dont like the thought of this fight coming off. It does nothing for either fighter, I believe the fight does nothing for them and their is bigger obstacles and better fights out there for both fighters.

            Mayweather should be fighting Hatton and Zab should be fighting Margarito and I **** on Zab for even thinking about making a Mitchell fight when Margarito has already agreed to any terms to make that fight happen. Main Events who promotes Margarito said they would be willing to give Zab almost 70% of the purse to make it happen.

            If Floyd vs Hatton DOESNT happen than both fighters should fight on the same card and set up a match afterwards.

            But we all know Hatton wants Maussa and I think that degrades Hatton as the 140 pound champion.
            Isn't it DK keeping Zab from fighting Margarito? I thought I read that Zab wants the fight but King will have none of it. I don't know, maybe I'm imagining things.

            I think Zab is a more focused fighter now, but he's not in Floyd's league so I don't know why he's so eager to make this fight. I think he has a much better chance of beating Margarito.

            As for the fight, I think Flyod was desperate to make any big PPV-style matchup by the end of the year. Hatton and Cotto were out, and this is something that will generate interest even if it's not the best matchup. People will buy it even if they'd prefer a different fight.

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            • Bombardier
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              #36
              Originally posted by Pooch
              im glad you cleard that up then!
              to be fair i dnt really care where it happens as long as it happens but it would probably be best for ricky to fight in the states. that way he gets used to fighting there in front of a mixed crowd (which will prepare him for future fights in the US) and where he is the the main attraction (he fought at MSG on his 2nd pro fight)..........also shut the haters up if he wins!
              Yes, my guy feeling is that this will be in the States, however either way I think the terms will be much better for both fighters than anything Tszyu had. Something tells my Kostya didn't do his homework when the Hatton fight was put together and did nothing to take away the home-ring advtange Hatton ejoyed.

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              • Alpha Male
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                #37
                Hatton definitely has the tools be threat to Mayweather, but not a significant threat. If they fight, Hatton will be hit far more than he has ever been. So, will Hatton's hemophilic face hold up? Probably not. Floyd can adjust to any fighting style. This will be a very entertaining fight with Floyd winning by UD. Hatton can only win by KO. However, I don't see that happening.

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                • Pooch
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by spinksjinx
                  But we all know Hatton wants Maussa and I think that degrades Hatton as the 140 pound champion.
                  the only reason hatton wants maussa is because mayweather is meant to be fighting zab, cotto is fighting branco (i think) and corralles is fighting castillo.....who else is there worth fighting at the moment. i agree its not the fight i want to see but theres nothing else out there and at least he gets a belt out of it.

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                  • spinksjinx
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Bombardier
                    Isn't it DK keeping Zab from fighting Margarito? I thought I read that Zab wants the fight but King will have none of it. I don't know, maybe I'm imagining things.

                    I think Zab is a more focused fighter now, but he's not in Floyd's league so I don't know why he's so eager to make this fight. I think he has a much better chance of beating Margarito.

                    As for the fight, I think Flyod was desperate to make any big PPV-style matchup by the end of the year. Hatton and Cotto were out, and this is something that will generate interest even if it's not the best matchup. People will buy it even if they'd prefer a different fight.

                    I dont think Zab nor King is interested in a Margarito fight, I dont see what the problem is. It is a big tough fight and Margarito is trying to capitalize off of his win over Cintron but the Judah camp seems to want none of it.

                    Like you said while Zab is focused now if he is in with a flashy fighter like Mayweather perhaps he will do some clowning of his own...You cant teach an old dog new tricks and I have no doubt if Judah is tempted he will go back to his immature self. But kudos for him for fighting brilliantly against Spinks though.

                    I like both fighters but I think neither one of them really needs this fight and it should happen. I think if Mayweather disposed of Hatton clearly and Judah beat the **** out of Margarito then the fight would be more credible...Imagine 140 unified champ vs 147 unified champ...Now that is a big fight but both fighters need to clean up the business that is left for them in their respected divisions.

                    In the mean time Margarito should pursue a fighter with Collazo. However, Margarito vs Zab and Hatton vs Floyd is the only fights that should be happening at 140-147.

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                    • Bombardier
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by spinksjinx
                      I dont think Zab nor King is interested in a Margarito fight, I dont see what the problem is. It is a big tough fight and Margarito is trying to capitalize off of his win over Cintron but the Judah camp seems to want none of it.

                      Like you said while Zab is focused now if he is in with a flashy fighter like Mayweather perhaps he will do some clowning of his own...You cant teach an old dog new tricks and I have no doubt if Judah is tempted he will go back to his immature self. But kudos for him for fighting brilliantly against Spinks though.

                      I like both fighters but I think neither one of them really needs this fight and it should happen. I think if Mayweather disposed of Hatton clearly and Judah beat the **** out of Margarito then the fight would be more credible...Imagine 140 unified champ vs 147 unified champ...Now that is a big fight but both fighters need to clean up the business that is left for them in their respected divisions.

                      In the mean time Margarito should pursue a fighter with Collazo. However, Margarito vs Zab and Hatton vs Floyd is the only fights that should be happening at 140-147.
                      If only, if only. Too bad this is boxing and not a sport that makes any sense. hmm, at least Floyd is willing to take on "name" fighters and not sit on mandatories like a lot of guys seem to want to do when they hit it big.

                      I peronsally think Judah can stay focused for this fight but will look pretty lackluster by the end of it. I can see the last few rounds being pretty dull unless Floyd ends it earlier. Zan just won't be able to catch him.

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