Quote: "Manny Pacquiao is great. Marquez is just as great."

[viperz007]

Who said conditioning?

Pac wins because he has incredible speed, power and I guess conditioning since you want to bring that up.

I never said he had no skills.

I said Marquez had more skills.

If your not as skilled as Marquez that dosen't mean you have no skills.

That's like saying that if your not as fast as Pac, that your slow.

Pac has skills. But he relies more on his immense physical gifts and great game plans of Freddie Roach to win fights.

Marquez is a guy who has to rely mostly on his skills because he dosen't have the physical gifts that Manny possesses.

Marquez cannot compete with those guys like Cotto and Margo because he can't move up in weight and keep his speed and power like Manny.

So to reiterate.

If everything is equal Marquez is a more skilled and intelligent fighter.

you know what people get wrong of about this argument?
coz marquez post some problem to pac in the past they think marquez is more skilled than pac ://

i have a question for you if this guys fights again

at weight 140lb coz you said marquez cant carry that speed and weight, today

who wins?

[Bastian Loc]

that's fine, but what's marquez greatest win?

a mid 30s barerra who knocked him down?

marquez claim to fame is pacquiao.

Pacquiao basically made marquez.

that's fine by me. but your opinion is wrong.

marquez at his absolute physical apex & optimum age (29-30) & weight (126) only managed to get knocked down 3x in one round by a very green, raw, one armed bandit, still developing early 20s pacquiao.

marquez is a first ballot hall of famer, falls short of ATG status & is below a level from pacquiao in terms of legacy.

You fail on so many levels its almost incomprehensible and irrefutable.

congratulations, you know **** shit about boxing.

[Evil Abed]

you know what people get wrong of about this argument?
coz marquez post some problem to pac in the past they think marquez is more skilled than pac ://

i have a question for you if this guys fights again

at weight 140lb coz you said marquez cant carry that speed and weight, today

who wins?

Pac destroys him in less than five rounds.

Reminiscent of Pac-Morales III.

Marquez is like 37 (almost done)

Pac is 31(much closer to prime)


If there both 30 and they both weigh 135= Even fight.

Styles match-up really well.

Marquez will outbox him and Manny will hurt him occasionally.

[paulsinghnl]

that's fine by me. but your opinion is wrong.

marquez at his absolute physical apex & optimum age (29-30) & weight (126) only managed to get knocked down 3x in one round by a very green, raw, one armed bandit, still developing early 20s pacquiao.

marquez is a first ballot hall of famer, falls short of ATG status & is below a level from pacquiao in terms of legacy.

hahaha my opinion is wrong.. that's funny.

well thats what i said: he tries to solve the puzzle. i mean he got the draw out of that fight, right? why? because he figures out his opponent, he uses his mind. sure, u go wrong in the first round, but u have to adapt and evolve to your opponent.

I think in the Mayweather-Marquez 24/7 he said something like: we have to intensify towards the opponent.

that's why i point to Mayweather, Mayweather is the smartest fighter in the game with fast hands and Marquez kept going after him. he could keep up.

he's got the heart of a lion to get up after a knockdown, just like Pacquiao, but he's got the intelligence to go with it, to dissect you as a fighter. Pacquiao has his amazing physical gifts, throwing HARD punches from all angles at blinding speed. he knows the weakness of a figher and goes after it.

Equals. in my opinion...

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

You fail on so many levels its almost incomprehensible and irrefutable.

congratulations, you know **** shit about boxing.

offer a boxing rebuttal & stop trying to marginalize the post with generic name calling.


You full blown aids infested **** prolapse.

[paulsinghnl]

You fail on so many levels its almost incomprehensible and irrefutable.

congratulations, you know **** shit about boxing.

hey come on man, none of that, arguments.

[JAB5239]

No I don't agree. Don't get me wrong I like Marquez a lot and he has been a great fighter, but Pacquiao is on another level IMO. In terms of resume, accomplishments, excitement and just what they have done for the sport I would put Manny clearly ahead of Marquez. Both are great fighters though.

.......This!

[viperz007]

Pac destroys him in less than five rounds.

Reminiscent of Pac-Morales III.

Marquez is like 37 (almost done)

Pac is 31(much closer to prime)


If there both 30 and they both weigh 135= Even fight.

Styles match-up really well.

Marquez will outbox him and Manny will hurt him occasionally.

so your saying a version of pac today vs a version of marquez that fought pac before will be a an even fight?

(a version of pac today is = power in both right and left, knows how to circle opponent for counters, wiser than b4 means wasnt as careless as b4 throwing combos)

marquez outbox this version of pac today?

[paulsinghnl]

Pac destroys him in less than five rounds.

Reminiscent of Pac-Morales III.

Marquez is like 37 (almost done)

Pac is 31(much closer to prime)


If there both 30 and they both weigh 135= Even fight.

Styles match-up really well.

Marquez will outbox him and Manny will hurt him occasionally.

Yup. totally agree.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

hey come on man, none of that, arguments.

jack is just bitter & forgetful about our

demarco vs valero bet,

my soon to be 5 mill bet on pwill vs martinez.

also he's picking rafa to beat juan ma, but i digress since i dont know jack **** about boxing.