Comments Thread For: HBO Pres Unsure Why Mayweather Turned Pacquiao Down

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

But you said it yourself. Floyd walked away with more because
Pac/Oscar did less right? So how could Pac get a better deal?
He could not live up to his worth. I hear you though but I thought
we were debating if Floyd made 20MIL fighting Oscar. You said
how do I know and then I proved it. You knew this all along so
why are you trying to test me? Come on man, you have to admit
it was funny what you said about Pac getting a better deal but
made less. I guess that only shows Floyd made more for Oscar
than Pac did at the end of the day.

listen you ignorant hard headed ass child,

pac got a better deal percentage split wise, but made less than floyd because oscar v floyd sold significantly higher ppv totals than pac vs oscar. how ****ing hard is that to understand?

floyd made more not because he had the better percentage split but because the total number of ppvs were significantly higher than pac vs oscar.

yes, sure floyd made more with oscar than pac did, but at the end of the day, end of career, pac will be rolling in the dough & floyd will be broke.

Not a good sign that floyd was already having money problems at the apex of his earning power. what's gonna happen when he's gone from the sport for a good 10 years?

not a good sign at all.

Its almost a forgone conclusion that floyd will be broke. living where he lives & spending the way he does.

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floyd doesn't have the heart to be on any ATG list , and if anyone on this forum can say he's top 100
You're ****in lyin to yourselves , he is no where near the top not even the last 10 yrs which is apparent its pac.... if he doesn't fight pac he will go down as the biggest coward in boxing history
And should never have another PPV fight

What cave did roam out off , Floyd cant fight the ***er because Manny keeps saying No and goes off to fight an inhouse dud and then next round Pac wouldnt come to the table on 0 days cut off so went off to fight another inhouse cheater ,, catch up buddy lots have gone on !

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floyd doesn't have the heart to be on any ATG list , and if anyone on this forum can say he's top 100
You're ****in lyin to yourselves , he is no where near the top not even the last 10 yrs which is apparent its pac.... if he doesn't fight pac he will go down as the biggest coward in boxing history
And should never have another PPV fight

Ha ha ha! So Pac struggling against JMM twice
(2nd fight very debatable). Fighting a paper champ,
David Diaz at a competitive 135 at the time, then fighting
2 guys Floyd already beat over a year prior, one undefeated
and another for his title at 154 (a real Title fight at JM)
makes Pac greater? Since when? Pac won a WW title at
145, fought a reluctant punching bag Clottey ( Pac still
got his face battered up) and now fighting an exposed
cheat, at another catchweight title fight? How does
this make Manny greater? The only thing I give Manny
is that he is more exciting to watch and he got more
belts. Pac didn't even want to prove how really great
he was by fighting the then #1 WW, who decapitated
the guy he is fighting now "Sugar Shane Mosley" Floyd
beat the #1 at WW, a guy that Pac wouldn't even mention
about fighting and Roach said was too good for Pac because
he wasn't Oscar. I do agree that Floyd should stop yapping,
whipping chicks out and fight more.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Ha ha ha! So Pac struggling against JMM twice
(2nd fight very debatable). Fighting a paper champ,
David Diaz at a competitive 135 at the time, then fighting
2 guys Floyd already beat over a year prior, one undefeated
and another for his title at 154 (a real Title fight at JM)
makes Pac greater? Since when? Pac won a WW title at
145, fought a reluctant punching bag Clottey ( Pac still
got his face battered up) and now fighting an exposed
cheat, at another catchweight title fight? How does
this make Manny greater? The only thing I give Manny
is that he is more exciting to watch and he got more
belts. Pac didn't even want to prove how really great
he was by fighting the then #1 WW, who decapitated
the guy he is fighting now "Sugar Shane Mosley" Floyd
beat the #1 at WW, a guy that Pac wouldn't even mention
about fighting and Roach said was too good for Pac because
he wasn't Oscar. I do agree that Floyd should stop yapping,
whipping chicks out and fight more.

pac is greater & there's nothing you can do about it unless floyd finds a pair of balls & beats pac.

deal with it.

There's a reason why pac won fighter of the decade & floyd didnt.

deal with it.

There's a reason why pac is more decorated than floyd is.

deal with it.

There's a reason why almost all boxing experts & analysts rank pac higher.

deal with it.

There's a reason why pac has a nike shoe & apparel deal & floyd doesnt.

deal with it.

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listen you ignorant hard headed ass child,

pac got a better deal percentage split wise, but made less than floyd because oscar v floyd sold significantly higher ppv totals than pac vs oscar. how ****ing hard is that to understand?

floyd made more not because he had the better percentage split but because the total number of ppvs were significantly higher than pac vs oscar. yes, sure floyd made more with oscar than pac did, but at the end of the day, end of career, pac will be rolling in the dough & floyd will be broke.

Not a good sign that floyd was already having money problems at the apex of his earning power. what's gonna happen when he's gone from the sport for a good 10 years?

not a good sign at all.

Its almost a forgone conclusion that floyd will be broke. living where he lives & spending the way he does.

Which shows that Floyd makes more money that Pac. Sure Pac
got a better deal but his earning potential was not equivalent to
Floyd's EVENTHOUGH Pac still got the better deal on paper.
Mayweather just tops him. What's the point of having a better
deal than the next man, if you don't make more $ than him? No
matter how you try to spin it because it is what it is. I can care
less what Floyd does with his money because he ain't giving me
no doe so whatever. All I'm doing is posting on a boxing website
and backing up my $#!t. What about you?

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Which shows that Floyd makes more money that Pac. Sure Pac
got a better deal but his earning potential was not equivalent to
Floyd's EVENTHOUGH Pac still got the better deal on paper.
Mayweather just tops him. What's the point of having a better
deal than the next man, if you don't make more $ than him? No
matter how you try to spin it because it is what it is. I can care
less what Floyd does with his money because he ain't giving me
no doe so whatever. All I'm doing is posting on a boxing website
and backing up my $#!t. What about you?

that's all im trying to say so why you acting all ******? you might not care about floyd's money but i cant say the same for the rest of floyds fan. that's all they care about. have you been to NSB? floyd fans take great pride in playing floyd's CIA (certified internet accountant). They think they know exactly how much floyd makes, yet there's always news reports that he cant pay his bills, getting cars repo'd, getting sued left & right by business deals, & getting IRS tax liens against him.

again, not a good sign that you are having money problems at the very top of your earning potential prime. What's gonna happen to floyd when he's not getting paydays from boxing anymore?

You aint backing **** up by the way. All you are doing is posting opinions of other people & trying to justify it as facts to fit your agenda.

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pac is greater & there's nothing you can do about it unless floyd finds a pair of balls & beats pac.

deal with it.

There's a reason why pac won fighter of the decade & floyd didnt.

deal with it.

There's a reason why pac is more decorated than floyd is.

deal with it.

There's a reason why almost all boxing experts & analysts rank pac higher.

deal with it.

There's a reason why pac has a nike shoe & apparel deal & floyd doesnt.

deal with it.

I'll tell you the reason. Pac's career was carefully guided
after Juan Manuel Marquez against Top Rank fighters that
already been in wars. With exception to Oscar and Hatton
who are Golden Boy but Floyd had the better versions of
them both. I like watching Pac fights but come on! Pac
greater than Floyd? Floyd retired and Pac took his slot.
He never beat him. How can Pac be better, when he didn't
even beat the man for the top spot? The only reason why
Pac is getting such praise next to Floyd is because Pac fights
more and smiles. The funny thing is that people talk about
Mosley being old but atleast more people thought he had a
chance against Floyd than Cotto/Clottey and now Margarito
against Pac put together. When Floyd was the P4P#1 fighter
in the sport he was the only one but with Pac, it is still debatable
to some boxing analyst and websites. Floyd had two fights
at WW since he been back while Manny fought there 3 times
and Floyd managed to take top WW from Manny with one fight
against Mosley (WHO WAS THE #1 WW) Talk to me about
how great Manny is once he stops fighting inhouse.

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that's all im trying to say so why you acting all ******? you might not care about floyd's money but i cant say the same for the rest of floyds fan. that's all they care about. have you been to NSB? floyd fans take great pride in playing floyd's CIA (certified internet accountant). They think they know exactly how much floyd makes, yet there's always news reports that he cant pay his bills, getting cars repo'd, getting sued left & right by business deals, & getting IRS tax liens against him.

again, not a good sign that you are having money problems at the very top of your earning potential prime. What's gonna happen to floyd when he's not getting paydays from boxing anymore?

You aint backing **** up by the way. All you are doing is posting opinions of other people & trying to justify it as facts to fit your agenda.

Ok man whatever. While I'm posting things people can
actually research and look up, your talking about Floyd's
money problems? And you got the nerve to say that
I have the virus called Floids? Your the one who knows
about his personal dealings not I.

[MiguelDirrell25]

Ha ha ha! So Pac struggling against JMM twice
(2nd fight very debatable). Fighting a paper champ,
David Diaz at a competitive 135 at the time, then fighting
2 guys Floyd already beat over a year prior, one undefeated
and another for his title at 154 (a real Title fight at JM)
makes Pac greater? Since when? Pac won a WW title at
145, fought a reluctant punching bag Clottey ( Pac still
got his face battered up) and now fighting an exposed
cheat, at another catchweight title fight? How does
this make Manny greater? The only thing I give Manny
is that he is more exciting to watch and he got more
belts. Pac didn't even want to prove how really great
he was by fighting the then #1 WW, who decapitated
the guy he is fighting now "Sugar Shane Mosley" Floyd
beat the #1 at WW, a guy that Pac wouldn't even mention
about fighting and Roach said was too good for Pac because
he wasn't Oscar. I do agree that Floyd should stop yapping,
whipping chicks out and fight more.

I'm just stating what most of the boxing public believes , I myself is not a fan of manny nor floyd but I have a certain disdain for that ****a.

Anyway however you put it manny came up from 106 or whateva da *** it was fighting the best or next 2 best in each stop he made , beat da *** out my fav. Fighter in cotto.

However you put it the 2 fights with JMM was when juan was still at a top notch level , and he drew and won in those two.
Floyd fought Jmm when he was 2 weight classes above his best and had been through numerous wars , noone thought he was gonna be any threat to floyd .

Floyd has rarely fought guys that were naturally bigger than he is and hand picks opponents and fought a 38 yo mosely and almost got his head knocked off in the process. He will never fight manny soeveryone needs to stop these what ifs and fantasy fight predictions between the two.
Floyd will never fight a under 30 fighter in his prime ever again.

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I'm just stating what most of the boxing public believes , I myself is not a fan of manny nor floyd but I have a certain disdain for that ****a.

Anyway however you put it manny came up from 106 or whateva da *** it was fighting the best or next 2 best in each stop he made , beat da *** out my fav. Fighter in cotto.

However you put it the 2 fights with JMM was when juan was still at a top notch level , and he drew and won in those two.
Floyd fought Jmm when he was 2 weight classes above his best and had been through numerous wars , noone thought he was gonna be any threat to floyd .

Floyd has rarely fought guys that were naturally bigger than he is and hand picks opponents and fought a 38 yo mosely and almost got his head knocked off in the process. He will never fight manny soeveryone needs to stop these what ifs and fantasy fight predictions between the two.
Floyd will never fight a under 30 fighter in his prime ever again.

Pac didn't want to fight Mosley at 38 tho. I think both Pac and Floyd
are Jackasses for not making this fight happen this year. Hopefully
will see it next year. IF/WHEN PAc and Floyd do fight, come see me
and I'll bet all my points on Floyd to win over Manny by way of shut
out.