Interesting video on drug test issue

[Dempsey-Roll]

It's amazing what people can see when they willingly blind themselves.

A lot of people blind themselves. Sometimes, the truth is too much

[IMDAZED]

A lot of people blind themselves. Sometimes, the truth is too much

You would know, of course.

[PACnPBFsuck]

Floyd has been a WW fighter except for the Dela Hoya fight. His last fight was at WW. Pac is a WW who just had 2 fights at that weight. That one is not a concession.

10 M penalty .. This one would have been a non-issue had Floyd honored his contract with JMM instead of paying his way in stacking the cards in his favor against JMM. This is not a compromise but an insurance that Floyd will not pull the same ****..

8 oz gloves.. This is allowed by NSAC to be negotiated as a contract point for a WW fight.. This is no big deal.. And its not like Floyd could not wear 10oz. gloves if he wants..It just meant that Pac can wear his favorite 8oz gloves..

The ringsize was a standard NSAC size for a WW fight. This one is not even disputed by both.

So there.. No significant compromise for Floyd as far as I am concern. Well at least not compared to the medical program that he wants Pac to agree upon. And he is not just asking for a testing like Holyfield, Bowe.. He is demanding to submit on a medical program that they want to dictate..

In any case, you still didnt get the picture. Its not about proving whether Pac is cheating or not. Otherwise he would have not moved the goal line himself. 14 days, whether it was not an original demand or not, the fact that they compromised it the first time prove that that cutoff was still enough to feel them safe.

You just proved your own point:

Since Floyd knows he has nothing to lose because he's gonna come in at 147lbs, Why couldn't PAC do the same thing and knowing that he wasn't taking illegal substance, call his bluff.

[Dempsey-Roll]

You would know, of course.

You're a funny man dazed.

[IMDAZED]

You're a funny man dazed.

It's quite sad, actually.

Just joshin ya

[mikemurni]

You just proved your own point:

Since Floyd knows he has nothing to lose because he's gonna come in at 147lbs, Why couldn't PAC do the same thing and knowing that he wasn't taking illegal substance, call his bluff.

Because there was already a precedent that Floyd cheated on the scales. That one happened. All they had on Pac was just accusation and speculation that hasn't even been proven at all.

[IMDAZED]

Because there was already a precedent that Floyd cheated on the scales. That one happened. All they had on Pac was just accusation and speculation that hasn't even been proven at all.

Mike is behind when it comes to this debate. He still thinks this argument makes sense .

[deejd]

Floyd has been a WW fighter except for the Dela Hoya fight. His last fight was at WW. Pac is a WW who just had 2 fights at that weight. That one is not a concession.

10 M penalty .. This one would have been a non-issue had Floyd honored his contract with JMM instead of paying his way in stacking the cards in his favor against JMM. This is not a compromise but an insurance that Floyd will not pull the same ****..

8 oz gloves.. This is allowed by NSAC to be negotiated as a contract point for a WW fight.. This is no big deal.. And its not like Floyd could not wear 10oz. gloves if he wants..It just meant that Pac can wear his favorite 8oz gloves..

The ringsize was a standard NSAC size for a WW fight. This one is not even disputed by both.

So there.. No significant compromise for Floyd as far as I am concern. Well at least not compared to the medical program that he wants Pac to agree upon. And he is not just asking for a testing like Holyfield, Bowe.. He is demanding to submit on a medical program that they want to dictate..

In any case, you still didnt get the picture. Its not about proving whether Pac is cheating or not. Otherwise he would have not moved the goal line himself. 14 days, whether it was not an original demand or not, the fact that they compromised it the first time prove that that cutoff was still enough to feel them safe.

It is a concession, especially considering that Pacquiao in his very next fight is competing at a higher weight than '47. If I ask you to do something you don't want to and you reject, then you ask me to do something that you want, and I agree, that's a concession, 10 out of 10 times.

Insurance or not, it's not reasonable considering if he came in 2 lbs over, that would be half his purse to Pacquiao making it 75-25. But guess what, Mayweather made the concession

You're right, gloves are their own issue between the fighters. Mayweather uses Grant or Winning, but Pacquiao specifically wanted 8oz Reyes. Mayweather didn't object. Concession: granted.

Bricks. You're still not getting it. 14 days is out of the window back in January. I repeat:

14 days is out of the window back in January.
14 days is out of the window back in January.
14 days is out of the window back in January.

Say that out loud to yourself three times, it's a psychological thing, you'll then start to comprehend the significance of that particular fact. From February on, the deal was full random testing. May 2nd, it was stated publicly that Pacquiao had to agree to that particular term for the fight to happen.

May 2nd on, full random testing
May 2nd on, full random testing
May 2nd on, full random testing

[deejd]

Mike is behind when it comes to this debate. He still thinks this argument makes sense .

Catchweights are for "suckas."

[deejd]

You just proved your own point:

Since Floyd knows he has nothing to lose because he's gonna come in at 147lbs, Why couldn't PAC do the same thing and knowing that he wasn't taking illegal substance, call his bluff.

Bravisimo!