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  • #91
    Originally posted by mikemurni View Post
    Because there was already a precedent that Floyd cheated on the scales. That one happened. All they had on Pac was just accusation and speculation that hasn't even been proven at all.
    So you would turn down 30+ million dollars because someone called you a name. I'm not buying it, if that was the case Lance Armstrong would never race again, he gets accused of doping everyday, with all the testing they do in Cycling he still hasn't been caught.

    The sad part is that the testing is tougher in Cycling than it is in Boxing, that's the real sad part.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by cixthree View Post
      wow... what an original topic

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      • #93
        Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
        It's amazing what people can see when they willingly blind themselves.
        touche dude, it never seizes to amaze. I still remember reading an article right after the Mosley fight where Pacquiao states that he'll take the test but there has to be a cutoff date because, and these are Pacquiao's own words, "he is bigger than me."

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        • #94
          Originally posted by mikemurni View Post
          Because there was already a precedent that Floyd cheated on the scales. That one happened. All they had on Pac was just accusation and speculation that hasn't even been proven at all.
          He cheated on the scales, so Pacquiao ask for the fight at '47.... yet when Mayweather cheated on the scales, he was 146 and if I remember correctly, looked very live after being away for two years.

          Great... logic... Pacquiao... I.... gue...s..s?

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          • #95
            Originally posted by davis828 View Post
            It is a concession, especially considering that Pacquiao in his very next fight is competing at a higher weight than '47. If I ask you to do something you don't want to and you reject, then you ask me to do something that you want, and I agree, that's a concession, 10 out of 10 times.

            Insurance or not, it's not reasonable considering if he came in 2 lbs over, that would be half his purse to Pacquiao making it 75-25. But guess what, Mayweather made the concession

            You're right, gloves are their own issue between the fighters. Mayweather uses Grant or Winning, but Pacquiao specifically wanted 8oz Reyes. Mayweather didn't object. Concession: granted.

            Bricks. You're still not getting it. 14 days is out of the window back in January. I repeat:

            14 days is out of the window back in January.
            14 days is out of the window back in January.
            14 days is out of the window back in January.

            Say that out loud to yourself three times, it's a psychological thing, you'll then start to comprehend the significance of that particular fact. From February on, the deal was full random testing. May 2nd, it was stated publicly that Pacquiao had to agree to that particular term for the fight to happen.

            May 2nd on, full random testing
            May 2nd on, full random testing
            May 2nd on, full random testing
            Well had he not cheated on the scales in his last fight then this demand would have not been justified at all. He has every reason to demand this type of insurance from Floyd. Because like I said it did happened. That is not a concession at all.

            You are comparing apples and oranges as regards to the weight and steroids..

            As far as gloves, you could also flip that Mayweather wanted winnings 10 oz gloves and Pac conceded... It works both ways. Thats why its a contract point. No one is forcing the other to wear gloves that they are not comfortable of.

            Pac is no bum who has no say on the negotiations. He has star power himself and has been used to dictating terms in other fights just like Floyd. Floyd cannot simply say now that I want zero or there's no fight and expects Pac to concede. Especially over an issue that has been debated back and forth in the media.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by PAC&PBFsuck View Post
              So you would turn down 30+ million dollars because someone called you a name. I'm not buying it, if that was the case Lance Armstrong would never race again, he gets accused of doping everyday, with all the testing they do in Cycling he still hasn't been caught.

              The sad part is that the testing is tougher in Cycling than it is in Boxing, that's the real sad part.
              Not if you can make that type of money in just 2 fights against other fighters.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by PAC&PBFsuck View Post
                So you would turn down 30+ million dollars because someone called you a name. I'm not buying it, if that was the case Lance Armstrong would never race again, he gets accused of doping everyday, with all the testing they do in Cycling he still hasn't been caught.

                The sad part is that the testing is tougher in Cycling than it is in Boxing, that's the real sad part.
                IN-DEEEEED! Cyclist get tested the morning of every race. If you get accused of doping in cycling because you consistently win or place top 5 in the Tour de France, chances are, you get caught. The mere fact Armstrong is still racing having been publicly scolded and recently pointed out by Landis, says a lot. If you're clean, you're clean.

                As a matter of fact, when the media questioned Usain Bolt because he was shattering records, he stepped up and said "give me any test you want." Michael Phelps has never backed away from a drug test as well (at least one that detects PED's, not marijuana).
                Last edited by deejd; 10-28-2010, 01:34 PM.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by mikemurni View Post
                  Well had he not cheated on the scales in his last fight then this demand would have not been justified at all. He has every reason to demand this type of insurance from Floyd. Because like I said it did happened. That is not a concession at all.

                  You are comparing apples and oranges as regards to the weight and steroids..

                  As far as gloves, you could also flip that Mayweather wanted winnings 10 oz gloves and Pac conceded... It works both ways. Thats why its a contract point. No one is forcing the other to wear gloves that they are not comfortable of.

                  Pac is no bum who has no say on the negotiations. He has star power himself and has been used to dictating terms in other fights just like Floyd. Floyd cannot simply say now that I want zero or there's no fight and expects Pac to concede. Especially over an issue that has been debated back and forth in the media.
                  Actually, Pac wanted 8oz gloves and Floyd conceded. But we all know you're an idiot. Please, carry on.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                    Actually, Pac wanted 8oz gloves and Floyd conceded. But we all know you're an idiot. Please, carry on.
                    Hehehe, Pac can wear 8oz Cleto Reyes gloves, and Floyd can wear 10 oz winning gloves..Its not just a demand one way..He was not dictating Floyd what he wants to wear in the fight. He just want to wear his own gloves..
                    Last edited by mikemurni; 10-28-2010, 01:37 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by davis828 View Post
                      Olympic style testing was the demand from the onset. It was actually before Pacquiao proposed the 8oz gloves, '47 lb division, and $10 million penalty. Mayweather called all of his bluffs and that's when the excuse came reigning in. I don't think Pacquiao expected Mayweather to agree to all the terms and even more terrifyingly to them, as fast as Mayweather did.

                      All that I listed there is in chronological order.
                      then, we the fans was gassed up by the fake **** we was reading and hearing on line and on the g**** vine....then nut ass Koncz got on 24/7 and said they agreed up to 7 days ....WOW!!

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