Manny: "Compare my career to Floyd's?"

[Mr. Fantastic]

Barrera, morales, marquez, hatton, cotto, and now margarito...OUT OF THEIR PRIME??? you must be a hater.

by the way, the last two names were avoided by mayweather like hell.

How the fuck am I a hater if I'm putting Pac as a greater fighter you damn jarhead?

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

arguello is thoe only one with an argument. if u actulayy knew about the other 3 the only one who even comes close to floyd's dominance at 130 is nelson. floyd is either the #1 or #2 130lber of all time.

you cant be serious. floyd never unified 130 & only fought 2 fightes you could consider good at 130, even then, they wont even make it in the hall of fame. floyd didnt really have a very good reign in terms of title defense, length, or quality opponents. 8 title defenses & his two best wins are vs genaro hernandez in his last fight before retiring & diego corrales.

now compare that to other greats like azumah nelson who had a much stiffer competition & a much longer reign with 13 or 14 defenses at 130.

dont even make me argue for arguello floyd doesnt come close. elorde, kobayashi, even someone like sammy serrano & alfredo escalera had greater 130lb reigns.

[Kagami Taiga]

I agree with you on this

I got Arguello as the #1 guy but after being reminded of Azumah and Flash's careers at 130...I have to move Floyd from #2 down to #4 or #5.

I admit I'm not as hip to what Kobayashi did, so I will definatly have to do some research. Good **** bro....you stay school people on legends of the game.

kobayashi was good, but he was good at a time where superweight boxing was dominated by japanese fighters. the guy rarely fought outside of japan and most of the fighters he did fight were japanses. nice, but im certain if he had fought arguello or nelso or floyd in the same era he would have lost.

[$tate of Mind]

How the fuck am I a hater if I'm putting Pac as a greater fighter you damn jarhead?

Well he's a *******.

[Kagami Taiga]

you cant be serious. floyd never unified 130 & only fought 2 fightes you could consider good at 130, even then, they wont even make it in the hall of fame. floyd didnt really have a very good reign in terms of title defense, length, or quality opponents. 8 title defenses & his two best wins are vs genaro hernandez in his last fight before retiring & diego corrales.

now compare that to other greats like azumah nelson who had a much stiffer competition & a much longer reign with 13 or 14 defenses at 130.

dont even make me argue for arguello floyd doesnt come close. elorde, kobayashi, even someone like sammy serrano & alfredo escalera had greater 130lb reigns.

unified against who??? bums who didnt wanna fight him??? blame him for that???

[NChristo]

how many defenses do u think floyd would have had if he didnt move up??? he was more dominant than both elorde and kobayashi...how old was he when he fought genaro hernandez??? when floyd was at 130, there was no1 who could beat him, because he was just that much better than any of them. your nostalgia is getting the better of u a lot of those fighters u named were good but not great many of them not hofers. i mean harold gomes??? come on son!!

So you're going on "What if" he didn't move up, expect he did move up.

You're rating Floyd on just that he was the most skilled of them ?, even though he only has 2 very good 130 lbs on his resume who are borderline HOFers at best.

He really doesn't have an argument for #1 unless you're going strictly on skill.

[Phenom]

just look at it this way Manny has been in pro boxing longer and in his entire career has been ranked below Mayweather up until 2008



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[Kagami Taiga]

So you're going on "What if" he didn't move up, expect he did move up.

You're rating Floyd on just that he was the most skilled of them ?, even though he only has 2 very good 130 lbs on his resume who are borderline HOFers at best.

He really doesn't have an argument for #1 unless you're going strictly on skill and what ifs.

the difference between u and me is im stating who was dominant and ur stating who fought in this era and that era. floyd would have been dominant at 130 regardless of the era he fought. kobayashi and elorde fought good fighters, but many of the fighters they fought werent great they werent that much better than the fighters floyd fought. 130 has never been a show stopper division, so in acting like these guys fought (and lost to) vastly superior talent that floyd, your observation is severely flawwed.

[serv]

I'd say they are pretty even, so I don't know why he is giving that ***** please look. Both are great fighters and have very nice resumes. Manny seems to forget that he has his eyes set on Mosley after this fight, even though Floyd ripped him a new ******* in May.

Mosley... nahhh
Only arum is saying that.

[DARKSEID]

**** this **** is getting interesting.. I wish I could stay