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  • #61
    Originally posted by Willie Swindler View Post
    having him at 1# is laughable. Stop ranking floyd based on his talent & skill level. we are not talking about fantasy fights, but rank as the greatest, which means resume more than perceived talent & outcome of fantasy fights.

    arguello, azumah nelson, flash elorde, & hiroshi kobayashi just to name a few have had greater 130lb resumes than floyd.
    Could you break down there 130 resumes cause I think you dont know what your talking about and just going by what Nchristo said.

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    • #62
      floyd is 33 and still unproven, sickening.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by NChristo View Post
        Azumah Nelson had a decade long reign with 13 or 14 title defenses and better competition then Floyd.

        Flash Elorde made 11 defences with 7 of them as undisputed champ his resume buries Floyd with names like Johnny Bizzaro, Sandy Saddler, Harold Gomes, Ismael Laguna, Teruo Kosaka etc et.

        Kobayashi has probably the best resume of the 130 greats with Yoshikai Numata, Jaime Valladares, Ricardo Arredondo, Rene Barrientos, Antonio Amaya, Carlos Canete, Shozo Saijo, Mitsunori Seki, Katsutoshi Aoki and more, he was the "man" in probably the strongest 130 era ever.

        You're telling me that Elorde and Kobayashi shouldn't be considered ?.

        I agree with you on this

        I got Arguello as the #1 guy but after being reminded of Azumah and Flash's careers at 130...I have to move Floyd from #2 down to #4 or #5.

        I admit I'm not as hip to what Kobayashi did, so I will definatly have to do some research. Good **** bro....you stay school people on legends of the game.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic View Post
          Well it could work both ways though to be honest. The way I see it now is like apples to oranges. Though now I would put Pac as a greater boxer.

          Pac fighting some of the fights Floyd ducked but at catch weights.

          Pac fighting more boxers out of their prime while Floyd fought some good boxers in their prime.

          Pac only really fighting one style while Floyd has fought a mix of styles.

          That's just how I see it.
          Barrera, morales, marquez, hatton, cotto, and now margarito...OUT OF THEIR PRIME??? you must be a hater.

          by the way, the last two names were avoided by mayweather like hell.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by NChristo View Post
            Azumah Nelson had a decade long reign with 13 or 14 title defenses and better competition then Floyd.

            Flash Elorde made 11 defences with 7 of them as undisputed champ his resume buries Floyd with names like Johnny Bizzaro, Sandy Saddler, Harold Gomes, Ismael Laguna, Teruo Kosaka etc et.

            Kobayashi has probably the best resume of the 130 greats with Yoshikai Numata, Jaime Valladares, Ricardo Arredondo, Rene Barrientos, Antonio Amaya, Carlos Canete, Shozo Saijo, Mitsunori Seki, Katsutoshi Aoki and more, he was the "man" in probably the strongest 130 era ever.

            You're telling me that Elorde and Kobayashi shouldn't be considered ?.
            how many defenses do u think floyd would have had if he didnt move up??? he was more dominant than both elorde and kobayashi...how old was he when he fought genaro hernandez??? when floyd was at 130, there was no1 who could beat him, because he was just that much better than any of them. your nostalgia is getting the better of u a lot of those fighters u named were good but not great many of them not hofers. i mean harold gomes??? come on son!!

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            • #66
              Originally posted by FootWork777 View Post
              On the contrary, I think Pac is a phenomenal fighter! I have no reason to hate on Pac, I actually think he's the biggest threat to Floyd right now. I'm simply calling him on his bs, this makes me a hater? Unlike 90% of yall I'm a true boxing fan!
              You have no reason to hate on pac? Yet you stay typin up essays on different ways to discredit the guy..

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              • #67
                Originally posted by razor.thin View Post
                floyd is 33 and still unproven, sickening.
                I agree... what a waste of talent...

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                  I actually think Floyd has had the better career.

                  Undefeated through 5 weight classes.

                  Barely lost rounds let alone any fights.

                  Top 10 P4Pounder 12 out of the 14 years hes been a pro.

                  2 time Lineal WW Champ in his 4th weight class.

                  11 time World Champion.

                  Greatest 130 Pounder of all time.

                  2 time Fighter of the Year.

                  Yeah I think that Floyd guy has a great career. NSB acts likes hes never done anything.
                  Tell me about it bro!

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by | THE KING | View Post
                    You have no reason to hate on pac? Yet you stay typin up essays on different ways to discredit the guy..
                    +1

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by | THE KING | View Post
                      You have no reason to hate on pac? Yet you stay typin up essays on different ways to discredit the guy..
                      Because so many people do the same for Floyd. Comprende? What have I said about Pac that's not true?

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