Manny: "Compare my career to Floyd's?"

[Phenom]

but still edged out Floyd in fighter of the decade honors


that's right


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Floyd has been active for 7 years of that decade while Manny put in 10 years worth of work but still he has been ranked below Mayweather his entire career up until Floyd retired.


meaning no one actually thought he was at his level until after being schooled by Marquez and moving on to bigger opponents such as Diaz and Hatton and DLH, cotto, Margarito at catchweights

[Kagami Taiga]

We judge boxers by what they did achieve, not what they could of achieved if they was in different eras or continued with their careers.

My observation is flawed even though I'm going of what each boxer has achieved in their respective era and you're going of off "what if" ?

ok ur analysis is flawed because ur saying that the two fighters u mentioned fought in a better era. sure it might have been better, but it wasnt better by that much. furthermore, u claim they were the men in their era, sure they might have been at the top, but they were far from dominant, this applies to kobayashi especially. trust me, i love japanese boxing a lot, kobayashi is cool but i dont think ive ever heard anyone rank him higher at 130 than floyd or arguello. take it for what u will, but 130 has never been a deep division and the most dominant fighters ever in that divison's history are floyd, arguello and nelson.

[Pudgemeister]

Floyd has been active for 7 years of that decade while Manny put in 10 years worth of work but still he has been ranked below Mayweather his entire career up until Floyd retired.


meaning no one actually thought he was at his level until after being schooled by Marquez and moving on to bigger opponents such as Diaz and Hatton and DLH, cotto, Margarito at catchweights

That speaks to how much Manny has accomplished, and how little Floyd has done in the past couple years.

I wonder if the two are correlated? IE., Floyd magically taking lots of vacations during Pacs rise.

Lol.

[$tate of Mind]

excellent observation.

most ppl who comment on this issue are biased and ignore tha facts one way or another.

although i dont think floyd ducked half the fighters he gets accused of, at the end of the day his resume still lacks names. judah and baldomir where the two best WWs when he fought them so u cant say he ducked anyone when he took those fights, yet u cant say the wins mean a whole lot either. but like u say he fought fighters with all styles and more often than not in their prime.

pacquiao has alot of names on his resume, but the fighters on several occassions already had the fight beat out of them by the time pac took them on. and they all have similar styles pacquiao having ducked stylistic challenges while floyds greatest asset is his ability to read and adapt to oponents, he hasnt done it a whole lot against the very best though.

to me floyd ranks higher, a great fighter needs to be able to adapt to any style something pacquiao is yet to prove that he can.

Thank you!

[Dave Rado]

I actually think Floyd has had the better career.

Greatest 130 Pounder of all time.

Most boxing historians rank Floyd #2 behind Arguello. And a few would have Saddler ahead of him as well, although he is very difficult to rank accurately at that weight.

[serv]

Well he's a *******.

this one is the real hater.

[$tate of Mind]

what BS? PAC's opinion is his...if he thinks Floyd hasn't done as much ****, then that's on him


i think its rather funny how you *****s pop a blood vessel tryin to stick up for a cherrypickin bigot that wont give you the fights you want

Your boy is steady fightin slow, battered, marginally skilled boxers. Why won't he fight anybody with some speed and boxing skills?

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Floyd has been active for 7 years of that decade while Manny put in 10 years worth of work but still he has been ranked below Mayweather his entire career up until Floyd retired.


meaning no one actually thought he was at his level until after being schooled by Marquez and moving on to bigger opponents such as Diaz and Hatton and DLH, cotto, Margarito at catchweights

Diaz was at 135, Hatton was at 140, DLH was at 147...those look like weight class limits to me


again

[Phenom]

That speaks to how much Manny has accomplished, and how little Floyd has done in the past couple years.

I wonder if the two are correlated? IE., Floyd magically taking lots of vacations during Pacs rise.

Lol.

or it speaks about how much Manny was over rated at 135 and above since that run he made post Marquez II is what made him the star he is today.


now we can argue if the Diaz Hatton DLH and Cotto that Manny fought and if they were shot or not but that does not change the fact that NOBODY thought Manny was at Mayweathers level prior to 2008

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Your boy is steady fightin slow, battered, marginally skilled boxers. Why won't he fight anybody with some speed and boxing skills?

we talkin about Floyd?