Comments Thread For: Roach Eyes KO Win: Margarito Slow, Defense is Terrible

[trainhard_187]

[QUOTE=Sugar Q;9461201]

Seriously, this is your response.. Marquez can call out anyone he wants but Marquez has NEVER BEEN A WELTERWEIGHT and still looks sluggish at 135.. Floyd fought a little man who has no businesses being at Welterweight..

Pac is fighteing bigger stronger guys, guys that Floyd NEVER FOUGHT again NEVER.. And dont say those extra pounds would of gave Cotto, Clottey, Hatton, and Delaquttier an advantage cause Pac beat them in the ring.. They didnt loss it on the scales..


3 legitimate Welters Pac has fought while Floyd has 1 win over Shane whos stock didnt look anymore impressive looking old and getting that draw against the Latin Fake..[/QUOT


Floyd fought a man Pac is still avoiding to this day and now Pac is fighting a man old Shane (according to you) just smashed. Get your story straight dude. Are you saying Marquez doesn't deserve another fight with Pac? Don't make him too little then big enough.

Floyd the fighter at WELTERWEIGHT fought Marquez a fighter who is currently a dominate LIGHTWEIGHT fighter. To top it off Floyd came in with a weight advantage.. Now if you think their is greatness in that then may god help you...

News Flash.. Pac vs. Marquez 2 was labeled UNFINISHED BUSINESS.. Marquez just couldnt finish it.. 3rd fight Pac slaughters Marquez...

[Sugar Q]

Obviously your a biased Floyd fan who refuses to accept that fact that FLOYD JUST NEVER WANTED THE FIGHT..

Funny how Marquez can call out Floyd can Floyd jumps on the opportunity while Pac and his people are conducting negotiations with Floyd and his Team denies negotiations ever happened...

Just answer this question?
Where is Floyd and why isnt he leading this "Cleaning up the Sport" campaign

Oh thats right HES NOT THINKING ABOUT BOXING..

Your not even a biased fan your an uneducated one cause you don't know Bob Arum and the BS that comes with negotiating a fight with him. Marquez isn't a Top Prank fighter.

[trainhard_187]

Shane Mosley DEMOLISHED Antonio Margarito. Antonio Margarito
got caught cheating in a fight with Mosley, who according to you
is an old guy. Margarito is overrated and always was. Maybe if
Arum would have put the right numbers together and guaranteed
Floyd the Oscar fight plus the 10Mil on Hatton/Cotto then Margarito
would have got the Floyd fight. Instead, Arum said to make the
De La Hoya fight was impossible and that's when Floyd bounced
and got the fight anyway. Pacquiao NEVER tried to fight or
negotiate a Mosley fight young or old.

Margarito is overrated according to you but again.. Floyd never fought him.. He choose another path.... You think IF Pac were to fight Shane we would see another Cotto massacre...

Again, Shanes disputable draw against Sergio and him looking old did not boost his stock.. Shanes performance against Sergio spoke volumes and at this point Pac fighting Shane would be pointless...

[trainhard_187]

Your not even a biased fan your an uneducated one cause you don't know Bob Arum and the BS that comes with negotiating a fight with him. Marquez isn't a Top Prank fighter.

Just tell me why isnt Floyd leading the "Cleaning up the sport" campaign.? Thats all I ask.. Where is he, why isnt he fighting? Oh again,

HES NOT THINKING ABOUT BOXING.. Dude watch the video.. directly from his own mouth..

[GRUSTLER]

Seriously Grust, I know you know your boxing but lets be real..
You think the extra two pounds on weigh in would of given Cotto a better chance? And Turtle Clottey was fought at 147.. Now Margarito who spent a good part of his career at 147, this fight is at 150 is that really a disadvantage for Marg coming in at 150.. I doubt it..

The only one ill let slide is Oscar, a little extra weight on him would of probably helped out Oscar but again, the 147 catchweight was Oscars choice..

Obviously it does, if Roach has and is demanding it for Cotto
and now Margarito. I saw a video on youtube where Roach
said before any negotiations were going on between Floyd/Pac
that he would try to get Floyd at a catchweight to take any kind
of advantage Floyd has to give to Pac. No way could I make this
up. The only reason(s) Pac is fighting Margarito at 150 is because
Margarito is with Top Rank and Pac wants his 8th title to pat
himself on the back. If Pac was really looking for a challenge
at 154, he could have tried to ask a real conteder there worthy
to get a shot at the title to come down to 150 from 154 but
he didn't.

[trainhard_187]

Obviously it does, if Roach has and is demanding it for Cotto
and now Margarito. I saw a video on youtube where Roach
said before any negotiations were going on between Floyd/Pac
that he would try to get Floyd at a catchweight to take any kind
of advantage Floyd has to give to Pac. No way could I make this
up. The only reason(s) Pac is fighting Margarito at 150 is because
Margarito is with Top Rank and Pac wants his 8th title to pat
himself on the back. If Pac was really looking for a challenge
at 154, he could have tried to ask a real conteder there worthy
to get a shot at the title to come down to 150 from 154 but
he didn't.

True, the only reason this fight is at 150 is because of the absurd 154 title which I agree is pointless but again this is just another tool market this fight..

One things for sure, Shane fought Marg at 147 and Pac is fighting him at 150.. I dont see an advantage for Pac here.. and really Roach and Team were willing to go after Cottos title again at 154 but that fight in everyones eyes wouldnt sell well considering the way Pac destroyed Cotto the first time around. This says alot, those extra pounds wouldnt make a difference. The outcome of another Pac vs. Cotto fight would be the same at 147 or 154.

[Carpe Diem]

He saw his last two fights..

[GRUSTLER]

Margarito is overrated according to you but again.. Floyd never fought him.. He choose another path.... You think IF Pac were to fight Shane we would see another Cotto massacre...

Again, Shanes disputable draw against Sergio and him looking old did not boost his stock.. Shanes performance against Sergio spoke volumes and at this point Pac fighting Shane would be pointless...

Again! Margarito could have got it along with Cotto
but the #'s weren't matching up and the Oscar fight
couldn't be done for the kind of money Floyd wanted
according to Arum. Floyd made the Oscar fight happen,
so I believe if the money was right, Margarito/Cotto could
have got it too. Oscar title fight at 154 was more dangerous
than a Margarito one at 147. In my book, Margarito proved
his worth by cheating. No way will I come down on Floyd
for not fighting Margarito but instead getting the Lineal
title at WW and then the mega fight at 154 against Oscar.
Floyd was more dominate at 130 than Manny (Documented),
fought more contenders at 135 than Pacquiao did when he
was there AND fought more at 140 then Pac did (TRUE).
Floyd became the Lineal champion at 147, while Pac hasn't
(FACT) AND Floyd moved up to 154, won a title being the
smaller man WITHOUT A CATCHWEIGHT ( FACT). Manny
could have become the main champ at 147 but decided
not to fight an "old" Mosley. Honestly, tell me how much
more Pacquiao has accomplished than Floyd?

[MoneyLarry]

Manny Pacquiao isn't gonna brawl with Antonio Margarito. So in & out. I love Robert Garcia and the rest of his people. They got me started on boxing I'll never trash them. I just don't see Margarito winning this fight. I don't care how good in shape he is. Pacquiao movement is just too good and too fast for Margarito. Ref might stop it or Pacquiao wins easy. No knockout.

[JAS_JAS]

But in all actuality. Floyd fought Mosley who completely
dominated Margarito who TKO'd a prime undefeated Cotto.
Floyd fought the fight Pacquiao was supposed to fight instead
he challenged Cotto. Roach's words were "Mosley's too good"
and "Cotto is not the same fighter" and guess which one he
thought would be the safest? I can understand Pac fighting
at a catchweight to get a fill of 154, but to have a title put
on the line for his first fight there against someone that doesn't
even deserve the shot AND that's not even ranked amongst
the top dawgs at 154? He's not even ranked at 154? Come on!
There were other challenges there for him but the fact that
Margarito is Top Rank and he is lesser skilled, gets him the
big shot at the Manny Pacquiao sweepstakes.

yeah and pac fought cotto who beat moseley who beat the **** out of tony... your quoting roach to suit your arguments...do you believe roach also when he says manny is going to KO floyd? cotto not the same fighter? so manny is also not the same fighter because he was kod twice? your arguments on fighters losing is a bit absurd...