Comments Thread For: Roach Eyes KO Win: Margarito Slow, Defense is Terrible

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NO! what floyd did was worse.. pac is cherry picking guys that are bigger and stronger than him.

Cherry picking is cherry picking no matter what the size is.
Technically speaking the only smaller guy Floyd fought as
of recent was Juan Manuel Marquez and techincally speaking
he called Floyd out to check mate Pac. At least Marquez
was rated as the P4P #2 fighter in the world AND the only
fighter to have questionable loses against Manny Pacquiao.
Oh yeah, can't forget Ricky Hatton (Who Pac also beat after Floyd).
The majority of Floyd fights at 147 were title fights that led
him up to a title fight at 154 (First time) against the BIGGER
Oscar and it wasn't at a catchweight. Also Floyd avenged his
questionable win against Castillo something Pac hasn't done
with JMM. I just don't get how people keep giving Pacquiao
passes for pulling these safety moves. Freddie Roach tells
the fans exacrtly how he views Pac's opponents and people
still believe Pac is fighting the best. There is no reason why
(being that Pac is supposed to be so good) that he should
be fighting Antonio Margarito at a catchweight of 150 at 154
for a vacant title, none of them deserve a shot at.

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Cherry picking is cherry picking no matter what the size is.
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yeah it is but if you are gonna compare between pac cherry picking cotto, margarito with floyd cherry picking Marquez

floyd cherry picking Marquez is the bigger crime

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as many as he needs! he is the people champ and fights for a whole nation...j/k

good post!

but to be honest i didnt think pac even had a chance against a highly rated welter even though he was damaged goods (cotto). the fight look competitive on paper. which pacroid has to be given credit for even though he dominated post the 4th round

unlike floyd whose fight with Marquez did not look competitive from the get go.

At first I went with Pacquiao and then I thought Cotto
could pull it off because I thought Cotto would be stronger
than Pac and could dent him but Pac won. Gave him props
for it. It should have been at 147 though. I like to watch
Pac fight but he is very beatable against guys that have
defense, counter ability, speed and footwork. I feel inorder
for anyone to put Pac over Floyd, Pac needs to stay fighting
these opponents at the normal weight class. If Pac can't fully
compete then why even fight there? For a new belt to fluff up
your legacy? We all thought size was enough but it wasn't in
terms of Pac and now everyone gets it. If Pac wants EVERYONE
to believe he is truly the greatest then he needs to stop with
these advantages. If Pac fought Mosley instead of Cotto and
won, then there would be no debate but he didn't. Instead
he chose a fighter who was broke down in his first defeat
(Margarito) and struggled in his fight before Pac and got a
questionable win against Clottey.

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WOW , what a contrast:

Lose Pacman to helping his country and countrymen !! I salute !!

Lose Mayweather Jr to the crimes of beating women and Jail

Amazing !

[trainhard_187]

yeah it is but if you are gonna compare between pac cherry picking cotto, margarito with floyd cherry picking Marquez

floyd cherry picking Marquez is the bigger crime

Damn thats so true.. Sadly some people are too blind to see this..

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yeah it is but if you are gonna compare between pac cherry picking cotto, margarito with floyd cherry picking Marquez

floyd cherry picking Marquez is the bigger crime

Murder is murder, no matter how bad a person needed to
get killed. Marquez called out Floyd not the other way
around. Pac Vs Cotto at 145 for his title he won at 147?
NOW Pac is fighting Margarito who was just reinstated into
boxing because he got caught cheating, for a 154 title,
at a catchweight of 150? Where BOTH guys don't even
deserve a shot at the title because neither is ranked there?
Come on man! Floyd NEVER fought any title fights at a
catchweight. Each time he moved up, competed and
won. Not getting this Manny gets a pass B.S. Pac is
supposed to be the P4P#1 best fighter in the world
and needs to compete at catchweights for title fights?
The sad part about it is that the majority of people knew
or know that Pac is better than his opponents so why
would he need any advantages? He should just be able
to compete against bigger guys on a equal level or just
stay at the smaller weights. He rather not because he
wants to hype up his name by collecting belts that
weren't even won legit.

[trainhard_187]

At first I went with Pacquiao and then I thought Cotto
could pull it off because I thought Cotto would be stronger
than Pac and could dent him but Pac won. Gave him props
for it. It should have been at 147 though. I like to watch
Pac fight but he is very beatable against guys that have
defense, counter ability, speed and footwork. I feel inorder
for anyone to put Pac over Floyd, Pac needs to stay fighting
these opponents at the normal weight class. If Pac can't fully
compete then why even fight there? For a new belt to fluff up
your legacy? We all thought size was enough but it wasn't in
terms of Pac and now everyone gets it. If Pac wants EVERYONE
to believe he is truly the greatest then he needs to stop with
these advantages. If Pac fought Mosley instead of Cotto and
won, then there would be no debate but he didn't. Instead
he chose a fighter who was broke down in his first defeat
(Margarito) and struggled in his fight before Pac and got a
questionable win against Clottey.

Advantages? Come on dude, I thought you were smarter then that..

Pacquiao is fighting Margarito at a catchweight of 150lbs.. Margartio spent most of his a career at 147... The 150 is for that dumb pointless 8th title..


Shane fought Margarito at 147, Floyd NEVER fought Margarito...

What advantages is Pac giving himself by making Marg weigh 150 when Marg spent his career at 147..

[trainhard_187]

Murder is murder, no matter how bad a person needed to
get killed. Marquez called out Floyd not the other way
around. Pac Vs Cotto at 145 for his title he won at 147?
NOW Pac is fighting Margarito who was just reinstated into
boxing because he got caught cheating, for a 154 title,
at a catchweight of 150? Where BOTH guys don't even
deserve a shot at the title because neither is ranked there?
Come on man! Floyd NEVER fought any title fights at a
catchweight. Each time he moved up, competed and
won. Not getting this Manny gets a pass B.S. Pac is
supposed to be the P4P#1 best fighter in the world
and needs to compete at catchweights for title fights?
The sad part about it is that the majority of people knew
or know that Pac is better than his opponents so why
would he need any advantages? He should just be able
to compete against bigger guys on a equal level or just
stay at the smaller weights. He rather not because he
wants to hype up his name by collecting belts that
weren't even won legit.

Marquez calling out Floyd is suppose to ok the fact that Floyd fought a little lightweight.. If Pac fought a fighter two divisions below you and all these other biased fans would crucify him on top of that if Pac didnt make the weight against the smaller fighter.. Come on...

Please dont tell me Floyd doesnt try to give himself advantages, funny thing about it is Floyd gives himself the weight advantage against a smaller guy..

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Damn thats so true.. Sadly some people are too blind to see this..

How come a smaller Pac can get called out by bigger
men, move up, win and be called great BUT a smaller
Marquez can't call a bigger Floyd out, compete, lose
and have it be called Cherry picked? If Marquez would
of won like Pac has been doing, then what would you say?
Not like Floyd hasn't dominated bigger fighters as well
(WITHOUT A CATCHWEIGHT). Mosley was the bigger
threat and challenge after he beat Margarito and Roach
and Pac CHERRY PICKED Cotto. Both Mosley and Cotto
had titles but the only difference is that Mosley was the
man to beat to be top dawg at 147 NOT Cotto. Hell,
the fight with Cotto wasn't even at the full WW limit.
PLUS Roach didn't even want the Mosley fight at a
catchweight? But sure people will find ways to justify
Manny as usual.

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But in all actuality. Floyd fought Mosley who completely
dominated Margarito who TKO'd a prime undefeated Cotto.
Floyd fought the fight Pacquiao was supposed to fight instead
he challenged Cotto. Roach's words were "Mosley's too good"
and "Cotto is not the same fighter" and guess which one he
thought would be the safest? I can understand Pac fighting
at a catchweight to get a fill of 154, but to have a title put
on the line for his first fight there against someone that doesn't
even deserve the shot AND that's not even ranked amongst
the top dawgs at 154? He's not even ranked at 154? Come on!
There were other challenges there for him but the fact that
Margarito is Top Rank and he is lesser skilled, gets him the
big shot at the Manny Pacquiao sweepstakes.

Why do you think that Mayweather waited til Mosley was an OLD man before he fought him?

Why did it look like jr was backed into a corner to sigh to fight Mosley?

Why did Jr. nearly get KO'd by an OLD MAN MOSLEY in the 2nd round ?

just one more. Jr. has been taking some hits, he did with Judah in about the 2nd, Hatton had him nearly down in the first was it ? and then MOSLEY shot it all in the 2nd but had Jr. looking real bad man. His time is coming when someone will not only rock Jr. but put him down and keep him down.

Just so you know , Pacman can do that.

And don't come up with the lame excuse of drug testing, anybody that knows anything without coming up with these lame phrases knows Pac ain't on some ****** drug. Mayweather has Ducked Pac like he ducked Margo.

Truth is Mayweather is the one who should be in the ring on Nov 13 but he is too buzy with other things.

sad , for the fans.