Manny Pacquiao takes on all comers, really?

[FerdinandMarcos]

I would blame that one on Bob Arum

So Pac can't speak for himself?

Why is he still with Arum anyway??

Maybe Arum has too much on him..

[hugh grant]

Who do you want Pac to fight? I think you are thinking Pac has to face superman, but that opponent dont exist im afraid. Pac has faced all he has supposed to face, and he beat them better than anyone. YOu cant do more than that.

Yes PBF gets crtisicm and he sure deserves it more than Pac.

[trainhard_187]

Assuming your a Pacqiauo fan which i know your not a real one as you were a Mayweather 'fan' a month or two ago but lets pretend you are a real Pacqiauo fan, When was the last time Pacqiauo fought a fighter in there utter prime?

At this stage in both Pacman and Mayweathers careers what opposition do they really have of fighters who are in their prime other then each other..

Shane aint
Cotto was a live dog even with the one loss
Marg aint
Clottey not sure if he even reached a prime pinnacle

Who in the WW division is in their prime that both Pac and May can face other then each other.. Literally no one.. So if Floyd continues to find a reason not to fight, what do you expect Pac do...? Fight someone else..

[trainhard_187]

So Pac can't speak for himself?

Why is he still with Arum anyway??

Maybe Arum has too much on him..

Has he ever called for a specific opponent. Like Pac has said that aint his job.. Would I love to see Pac man up and just call out Floyd during a post fight interview.. HELL YA, but that just isnt him.. He lets Arum do the match making for him..

[trainhard_187]

Who do you want Pac to fight? I think you are thinking Pac has to face superman, but that opponent dont exist im afraid. Pac has faced all he has supposed to face, and he beat them better than anyone. YOu cant do more than that.

Yes PBF gets crtisicm and he sure deserves it more than Pac.

True that...

[boxer2k5]

Mayweather is too scared to fight guys in their primes ...... look at his last 3 opponents

his last 3 were mosley marquez and hatton.

hatton was undefeated and lineal junior welterweight champion. 2 division champion.
sounds prime to me and he was what 29?

mayweather could never fight marquez in his prime(whos to say he is or not in his prime only fight he lost was to manny and mayweather and he gave manny all he can handle twice)because of different divisions. mayaweather and manny are same division so to fight marquez was a statement he was making comming back from almsot 2 years off that he can dominate a guy that gave manny the P4P guy(because floyd took time off) all he could handle.

and mosley who may not been at his best but was the welterweight champion after dominating and knocking out the previous champion. and its not mayweather fault if they didnt fight in their primes because it was mosley who jumped 2 division(like marques duran and others) to seize a fight with champion oscar dela hoya. so it was mosley who said forget mayweather(junior lightweight champion) and chase the money fame in oscar.

so if you read it on paper and dont know what went on it may seem like he fought people not at their best. but its not true all his opponents are very live and dangerous(against others) but jsut werent on floyd level and wouldnt have been no matter when they fought

[IronDanHamza]

At this stage in both Pacman and Mayweathers careers what opposition do they really have of fighters who are in their prime other then each other..

Shane aint
Cotto was a live dog even with the one loss
Marg aint
Clottey not sure if he even reached a prime pinnacle

Who in the WW division is in their prime that both Pac and May can face other then each other.. Literally no one.. So if Floyd continues to find a reason not to fight, what do you expect Pac do...? Fight someone else..

I agree with you, I'm a Mayweather fan and i praise his resume, but i also praise Pacqiauo's resume, both Pacqiauo and Mayweather have fought the top ranked Welterweights other than themselves (Mayweather fought Shane who was #1, and Manny fought Cotto who was #2)

My response was to counter another poster who said Mayweather doesnt fight people in there prime, but neither has Pacqiauo, so which one is it? Thats all i was getting at.

What should Pacqiauo do? Nothing. He fought Cotto at welterweight, although not prime, still a great and legit win. The same goes for Mayweather with Mosley.

[boxer2k5]

Can you defend the fact that Floyd declined to fight Manny? \

As for Pac's resume, if you look at Pac's resume that lead him to stardom, there's no way in hell you can downplay it. Morales x3, Barrerra x2, Marquez x 2.

As for his recent resume, I wouldn't say beating Cotto and Hatton was not noteworthy. Hatton was fresh off a dominating performance against Paulie, and Cotto was coming off 2 victories. And Clottey? Who the hell knew he would ***** out like that? The guy was a legit WW contender who many thought beat Cotto in their match. It's easy to say that he was a joke in hindsight due to his lackluster performance, but who were we to know he would do that?

Criticize him all you want, but being a Floyd fan, you would be a hypocrite to do so. Fighting a lightweight and then fighting an old fighter who had almost a 1 and a half year lay off isn't the most impressive thing either.

every fight with morales morales was comming off a lost. even tho barerra was having a good run he was being called washed up when he first fought morales. years before. and after the draw(i thought manny won) marquez went and lost to chris john before rematch with manny(thought manny won rematch too but close) also he fought david diaz who jsut beat morales in which the majority thought morales won. what does that say about diaz?
morales at that time lost what 4 straight what does that say about the state morales was in? his name and past accomplishments is what makes those wins seem big.

hatton was koed by floyd and was alsmot knocked out by a noname on th double header with paulie(he had the dreds that day) his last dominant fight was against paulie then was koed by manny. oscar knocked out by bhop lost to floyd was very inactive was getting slaped around by forbes and was heavy drained weak and under prepared(his own condition coach said so) even getting beat up in sparring before fight. clotty drop the ball every chance he got. cotto took a brutal beating from margirito a beating from clotty and had a very green trainer when fought manny.

is this manny fault hell no. manny job is to train and win. is manny some god hells no hes jsut a fighter a good one great athlete who is a product of great match making and timing. and thats the truth and reality.

[McFearless]

If you wanna know why PAC isn't fighting guys on "3+ winning streaks" it's because those guys aren't as established as cotto, hatton, DLH etc (except clottey Idk why that happened)

In other words the guys that are on "winning streaks" as you put it, won't bring in the type of money these guys he's faced are bringing. And it'll stay that way until those other guys prove to become better attractions. It sucks but that's the way it is.

And that also applies to Floyd or any other top draw.

[McFearless]

And Idk why people act like baldomir was the best champ "he was lineal champ blah blah"
It was a ****ing fluke.