Judging by todays standards Floyd's win over Baldomir is totally legit.

[Ryannn]

I never ever said that was Pacman's fault,homey!!U said that Oscar came down only 2 pounds for the fight,I simply corrected Ur mistake,that's it!!

oscar had to come down 2-3 pounds from his previous weigh in. should have made that more clear.

look at these fights:

b-hop-Oscar
chavez-whitaker
b-hop- pavlik
etc...

My point? it isn't easy for smaller guys to beat the bigger guy even if that guy gotta lose a few pounds

[Pacquiao'd]

except manny arguably did more in floyd's weight class in two years than floyd has for 5 years.

boxing scenes p4p list disagrees with you. i suggest you read it. pac has not done more at WW than floyd. its the reason why Boxscene put floyd at #1 P4P, b.c they feel hes done more than pac. and pac as only fought one WW at the limit.

but i suggest you read

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=pound

other than that, hes created his own weight limits while at WW. you keep thinking pac has done more at WW. especially when all his oppenents have come off recent big losses

boxing scenes P4P list>>>>rings

[andrew14]

Yes,I've come to realize this!!I've always been a heavy critic of Floyd!!I've always seen him as someone who cherrypicked his way to the top,but lately it's become clear that what's good enough for his counterpart must be good enough for Floyd!!At least Baldomir was a lineal titlist at 147 when Floyd breezed by him!!He was a real champ in a real weight class!!It would seem hypocritical for any other fan of other fighters who love catchweights for vacant titles to ever try & discredit Floyd's run at 147 again!!Therefore as suck,I will no longer talk crap about Floyd because the boxing world has started to accept less of it's fighters who claim to be greats!!

canelo is better than him.

[ADP02]

U guys still will not get it,Baldomir was the easiest win for the title at 147 for Floyd,look at 154 right now,Margarito is the easiest win for a title & he brings nothing to the table!!Baldomir brought titles & the fact that he just upset Judah,but people always **** on Floyd while adoring Pacman for cherrypicking too!!I still believe that a rematch against Cotto at 154 being trained by Manny Stewart is a much more legit fight because cotto moved up to 154 & beat a ranked champion,so he has legit standings there!!

I know what you are saying ...... you are saying that Floyd could have fought Mr X no matter how good he is because he somehow managed to get a title. Even though Mr X is a bum fighter, it's OK because Floyd was going for a title. Right?

Yes, if Floyd only cared about the title, no problem ...... but WHAT YOU ARE SAYING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BALDOMIR!!!

With Margo, I said it before, it wasn't even Manny's #1 pick as he wanted to fight Floyd. For Floyd, BALDOMIR was his #1 pick since he DIDN'T want to fight Margo back then.

So Manny's second option was to fight for a title at LM where he NEVER fought before. Contrary to what you believed (right or wrong), they didn't think Cotto would have been marketable since Manny beat him recently.

Unlike what you are saying, even Manny fans are not all gongho about Manny vs Margo but it was still a marginably acceptable 2nd option since again Floyd was on vacation. There is no adoring of this fight, as you put it.

Margo is a cheater as was Floyd's last opponent, Mosley ........ but unlike what you just said, Margo also has something to bring to the table that Baldo didn't have. That is, Margo will make an interesting fight. We will have 2 guys who are considered warriors and Margo has A CHANCE TO WIN THE FIGHT! I will want to watch this fight for many reasons.

You said in another thread that Margo has a chance of defeating Manny. Can you say that about Baldo beating Floyd? No, so your comment has nothing really to do with the fighter named Baldomir!!!

[Ryannn]

boxing scenes p4p list disagrees with you. i suggest you read it. pac has not done more at WW than floyd. its the reason why Boxscene put floyd at #1 P4P, b.c they feel hes done more than pac. and pac as only fought one WW at the limit.

but i suggest you read

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=pound

other than that, hes created his own weight limits while at WW. you keep thinking pac has done more at WW. especially when all his oppenents have come off recent big losses

boxing scenes P4P list>>>>rings

do you know what "arguably" means? hell, you don't even know what a decade means so probably not.

the fact that it's even close shows how lacking floyd's resume is at ww.

[letsgobrady]

I know what you are saying ...... you are saying that Floyd could have fought Mr X no matter how good he is because he somehow managed to get a title. Even though Mr X is a bum fighter, it's OK because Floyd was going for a title. Right?

Yes, if Floyd only cared about the title, no problem ...... but WHAT YOU ARE SAYING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BALDOMIR!!!

With Margo, I said it before, it wasn't even Manny's #1 pick as he wanted to fight Floyd. For Floyd, BALDOMIR was his #1 pick since he DIDN'T want to fight Margo back then.

So Manny's second option was to fight for a title at LM where he NEVER fought before. Contrary to what you believed (right or wrong), they didn't think Cotto would have been marketable since Manny beat him recently.

Unlike what you are saying, even Manny fans are not all gongho about Manny vs Margo but it was still a marginably acceptable 2nd option since again Floyd was on vacation. There is no adoring of this fight, as you put it.

Margo is a cheater as was Floyd's last opponent, Mosley ........ but unlike what you just said, Margo also has something to bring to the table that Baldo didn't have. That is, Margo will make an interesting fight. We will have 2 guys who are considered warriors and Margo has A CHANCE TO WIN THE FIGHT! I will want to watch this fight for many reasons.

You said in another thread that Margo has a chance of defeating Manny. Can you say that about Baldo beating Floyd? No, so your comment has nothing really to do with the fighter named Baldomir!!!

wasn't baldomir a much bigger man than floyd?but floyd is so skilled that even the fact that someone is bigger than him is not enough for anyone to believe that person could win unlike manny who some believe might lose because of margarito's size not skill so margarito is only competition for manny because unlike floyd everyone knows manny will get hit.it's not so much that baldomir was a bum but that floyd is just too good

[ADP02]

wasn't baldomir a much bigger man than floyd?but floyd is so skilled that even the fact that someone is bigger than him is not enough for anyone to believe that person could win unlike manny who some believe might lose because of margarito's size not skill so margarito is only competition for manny because unlike floyd everyone knows manny will get hit.it's not so much that baldomir was a bum but that floyd is just too good

Floyd was taller and had a longer reach. Baldo was built like a tank. This also meant that he was as slow as a tank!!!

Floyd didn't have to be so skilled to beat Baldo. How do I know? Baldo has 13 losses and many of them to no-name opponents.

Instead,
Manny = 5'6", reach = 67"
Margo = 5'11', reach = 73" and will come in heavier than Manny.

[Pacquiao'd]

Floyd was taller and had a longer reach. Baldo was built like a tank. This also meant that he was as slow as a tank!!!

Floyd didn't have to be so skilled to beat Baldo. How do I know? Baldo has 13 losses and many of them to no-name opponents.

Instead,
Manny = 5'6", reach = 67"
Margo = 5'11', reach = 73" and will come in heavier than Manny.

lets see how many excuses you can come up with in a minute....GO!!!

[ADP02]

lets see how many excuses you can come up with in a minute....GO!!!

I see that you are stuck again and can't counter with anything.

The guy stated Baldo was bigger than Floyd and I put out the facts that in several of those areas, Floyd had the advantage. Not excuses buddy .... as for Manny vs Margo, that is too obvious ....... FACTS!

[Ray*]

Margarito is built and slow like a tank himself, Any skilled fighter shouldn't be losing to him especially now.