Judging by todays standards Floyd's win over Baldomir is totally legit.

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  • daggum
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    #111
    Originally posted by ADP02
    While this was not directed at me ....

    Floyd has been WW since 2005. Those guys (Williams, Cotto, Margo and Pac) you mentioned WERE AROUND between 2005 - Present but Floyd didn't fight them.

    Part of Floyd's criticism is that he fought a bum like Baldo but never fought the ones he should have when they were the most feared.
    floyd fake retired to avoid these dangerous guys i mean what more needs to be said? he's on another fake retirement right now because the pacquiao heat got to him so bad. what all time great fighter fake retires over and over when worthy challengers present themself? answer none. i guess floyd isn't a great fighter.

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      #112
      floyd ducked the best then just like hes ducking the best now, i just hope floyd doesnt forget to pack the ky jelly before he gets locked up lol

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        #113
        Originally posted by clint650
        i give floyd credit for not making demands on any of these fighters at the time he fought them. He played by their rules and beat them, and now that he is the king @ 147 you can't knock him for making demands on those wanting to challenge him. He has that right, he has earned it, but most will disagree. (talking about the drug tests). Anyways, i am not thrilled about margarito getting a shot, and i wish cotto would be the one to retire him, but even so i still don't agree with letting him return. He should be fighting for pesos in tijuana. Pac and floyd have a lot in common, but i think the cherrypicking is about even at this point. Floyd atleast is obvious about the 'payday" aspect of the fight, as pac still tries to pretend he fights for the fans. If that was true he would have agreed to any bull**** demand floyd gave him the first time around.
        bingo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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          #114
          Originally posted by Alex_Hayden
          How could you not know the answer to that?

          Fights with Cotto or Margarito were easily the biggest fights to be made at that time and their potential just kept getting bigger and bigger, especially in Miguel's case. He kept taking big fights and winning them, which just made a Mayweather showdown (seemingly)inevitable. But I don't think there was ever a complete duck of a Mega-Fight like that in the past 20 years up until Mayweather completely ignored the main guys at 147. Plus Mayweather didn't even fight Judah until he got man handled by Baldomir. And you're wondering if people would worry about a Judah showdown? Are you serious? As for Baldomir I don't think anyone thought highly enough of him to think anything foul if Floyd did not fight him. Especially when there were far better fighters in the division like Miguel Cotto.

          Not seeing Cotto vs Mayweather at that moment in time is like if Trinidad never fought De La Hoya, or Mosley never fought Forrest, or if Hearns never fought Leonard etc etc.

          It's pretty weak that a Cotto vs Mayweather fight never took place.
          cotto wanted no parts of floyd. period. and didnt you see th quote from arum i posted it. floyd asked to fight marg, cotto and hatton and he wanted 8mil, 10mil and 10mil for each one. arum didnt want to fight so ARUM deaded the fight.

          stop making **** up when its already set in stone and history. you pctards are pathetic

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            #115
            Originally posted by yesir
            cotto wanted no parts of floyd. period. and didnt you see th quote from arum i posted it. floyd asked to fight marg, cotto and hatton and he wanted 8mil, 10mil and 10mil for each one. arum didnt want to fight so ARUM deaded the fight.

            stop making **** up when its already set in stone and history. you pctards are pathetic


            actual things that have came out of floyd's mouth

            "cotto is not a ppv star" (baldomir was?)

            "cotto lives too far away"

            "i won't fight cotto until he is a ceo"

            sounds like a guy that is furiously ducking cotto to me but to *****s those are all reasonable excuses.

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              #116
              Originally posted by Check_hooks
              floyd ducked the best then just like hes ducking the best now, i just hope floyd doesnt forget to pack the ky jelly before he gets locked up lol
              you god walked away from negotations after getting the 14 days he asked for. how does that crow taste?

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                #117
                Originally posted by daggum
                actual things that have came out of floyd's mouth

                "cotto is not a ppv star" (but he fought baldomir who was)

                "cotto lives too far away"

                "i won't fight cotto until he is a ceo"

                sounds like a guy that is furiously ducking cotto to me but to *****s those are all reasonable excuses.
                i know how you like to avoid looking at dates and times frames of events so i suggest you revisit them before you spew more bull****

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by yesir
                  i know how you like to avoid looking at dates and times frames of events so i suggest you revisit them before you spew more bull****
                  why did floyd fake retire to avoid a cotto fight? you can spew all your 10 million crap all you want but the bottom line is floyd wanted none of cotto none! floyd made demands he knew wouldn't be met just like he did against pac. then when pac agreed to all his demands he fake retired again.

                  time frame 2008-a cotto mayweather super fight which would have made floyd a lot more than 10 million dollars does not happen cause floyd fake retires.

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                    #119
                    - Baldo was NOT an elite fighter and was never even considered to be a good quality fighter.
                    - Baldo was never considered one of the most feared WW of his time.
                    - Baldo was never being ducked by anyone because they were too scared to fight him.
                    - Baldo had no chance against Floyd and most of us knew that before the bell rang.
                    - Baldo had 1 good year but it was against a ready to retire, didn't belong at 147, Gatti ..... AND Judah, who looked terrible in that fight. Had more to do with Zab than Baldo's greatness .... nuf said!

                    - While Floyd fans are trying their best to discredit the Manny vs Margo fight, Margo still has a chance to beat Manny and Manny better come prepared. Again, that could not have been said about Baldo vs Floyd!

                    There is good and bad that can be said about Margo vs Manny but you can never turn around and make Baldo be what Baldo wasn't .....

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by ADP02
                      - Baldo was NOT an elite fighter and was never even considered to be a good quality fighter.
                      - Baldo was never considered one of the most feared WW of his time.
                      - Baldo was never being ducked by anyone because they were too scared to fight him.
                      - Baldo had no chance against Floyd and most of us knew that before the bell rang.
                      - Baldo had 1 good year but it was against a ready to retire, didn't belong at 147, Gatti ..... AND Judah, who looked terrible in that fight. Had more to do with Zab than Baldo's greatness .... nuf said!

                      - While Floyd fans are trying their best to discredit the Manny vs Margo fight, Margo still has a chance to beat Manny and Manny better come prepared. Again, that could not have been said about Baldo vs Floyd!

                      There is good and bad that can be said about Margo vs Manny but you can never turn around and make Baldo be what Baldo wasn't .....
                      all these excuses. haha. *******s are the worst fanboys, EVER
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