Serious question..does balomire get discredited just cause floyd beat him??

[Shattered Jaw]

Good fighter. Not great. Insuperior to Margarito though, who I would have loved to see in a fight against Floyd.

[check hook]

Carlos Baldomir is on the same level of David Dias.

If you think that is a discredit or a credit you can take it how you wanted.

i woukld rate him ahead of diaz.......diaz is garbage.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Lets face it, he was *****

[ADP02]

against Zab:
Zab looked like he took sleeping pills in that fight. He looked really bad. Zab probably took him too lightly. Also, I never considered Zab to be a true 147lb. He belonged at 140, if you ask me.

against Gatti:
Gatti was past his prime and did not belong at 147 either.


The only reason his name is even brought up is because most fans thought it was a joke of a fight between Baldo vs Floyd ..... plus Floyd refused to fight Margo and instead fought Baldo.....

Floyd fans want to give Floyd credit for beating Baldo .... zzzzzzzzzzz

[Dave Rado]

Its very rare guys who hold all the cards will set down and defend titles.

Case in point: When Pac won his 135 Pound and 140 Pound titles. He didnt defend either of them.

Pac didn't defend his Lightweight title because he moved up in weight. Similar with the Jr Welter title. But Floyd didn't move up in weight. He fought a Jr Middleweight but he was still a Welterweight, and then he fought a Jr Welterweight at Welterweight (which was a defence of his title, for which he did pay sanctioning fees - but it wasn't against a Welterweight contender).

Also, Pac had previously cleared out the Super Featherweight division, beating three future HoFers in the process; and he has defended his Welterweight title against the #3 ranked Welterweight at the time, and he
tried to make a fight to defend it against the #1 ranked Welterweight, Mayweather. Plus he's said that if Berto and Mosley fight each other, he'd be willing to fight the winner.

Plus Cotto was a better win for Pac than Boldomir for Floyd, despite the fact it wasn't for the lineal crown, and despite the unfortunate catchweight. Cotto was a much better fighter than Boldomir, had a far better overall resume, and was considered much more of a threat to Pac than Boldomir was to Floyd. And the catchweight was only 1lb lighter than the weight Cotto weighed in at in his previous fight, so although it was wrong, it is very unlikely to have been a factor in the way the fight went.

You'll be hard pressed to see guys like Floyd or Pac sit down and have a string of title defenses. Especially given how Floyd feels about sanctioning fees (not wanting to pay for Shanes belt). You know that wasnt going to happen.

No sanctioning fees are required for the lineal title, and Cotto, Margarito, Williams, Mosley and Clottey would all have been willing to fight him at that time even if he had ditched his alphabet belt (which he didn't in any case).

[daggum]

If your argument is he shouldnt had fought Oscar and Hatton in 2 of boxing biggest fights because he shouldve defended his WW belt.

Im sorry. You wont get much from me. Thats ludicrous at best. How in 2010 are we knocking the guy for fighting Oscar in boxing BIGGEST fight ever. When at the time EVERYONE was going nuts about it.

Then he fought Hatton in another HUGE fight.

You wont get much from me on that. I refuse to clown a guy for going after the 2 biggest fights in the sport.

big fights dont equal good competitive fights. those guys weren't even in his division. they were manufactured super fights. it's very telling how floyd took those big fights against old oscar and small hatton but avoided the big fights against prime cotto and pac cause they were much more dangerous.

[Dave Rado]

i woukld rate him ahead of diaz.......diaz is garbage.

They're both garbage. They both got lucky. Their skill-sets are similar. Their resumes are similar.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Pac didn't defend his Lightweight title because he moved up in weight. Similar with the Jr Welter title. But Floyd didn't move up in weight. He fought a Jr Middleweight but he was still a Welterweight, and then he fought a Jr Welterweight at Welterweight (which was a defence of his title, for which he did pay sanctioning fees).

Also, Pac had previously cleared out the Super Featherweight division, beating three future HoFers in the process; and he has defended his Welterweight title against the #3 ranked Welterweight at the time, and he
tried to make a fight to defend it against the #1 ranked Welterweight, Mayweather.

Plus Cotto was a better win for Pac than Boldomir for Floyd, despite the fact it wasn't for the lineal crown, and despite the unfortunate catchweight. Cotto was a much better fighter than Boldomir, had a far better overall resume, and was considered much more of a threat to Pac than Boldomir was to Floyd. And the catchweight was only 1lb lighter than the weight Cotto weighed in at in his previous fight, so although it was wrong, it is very unlikely to have been a factor in the way the fight went.



No sanctioning fees are required for the lineal title, and Cotto, Margarito, Williams, Mosley and Clottey would all have been willing to fight him at that time even if he had ditched his alphabet belt (which he didn't in any case).

He fought a JMW but he was still a WW? What are you talking about. He weighed in at 150 Pounds. He was a JMW. He moved up in weight to fight Oscar.

What Pac did in the past holds no bearing over the FACTS.

The facts are he DID NOT defend his 135 Pound and 140 Pound titles. He didnt sit down at a weight and defend them. Cant knock Floyd and not knock Pac for the same exact thing.

Whether Cotto was a better win is irrelevant to the argument. Pac did not defend his 135 and 140 Pound belts. Not once.

I know no fees are required for Lineal. He kept the WBC belt and moved up and fought Oscar.

Then turned around and fought Hatton.

Then retired. He has a Lineal title from Shane. Will he defend it? Who knows. I doubt it.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

big fights dont equal good competitive fights. those guys weren't even in his division. they were manufactured super fights. it's very telling how floyd took those big fights against old oscar and small hatton but avoided the big fights against prime cotto and pac cause they were much more dangerous.

Its pointless debating you with on Floyd.

Whats so telling about fighting in 2 of boxing biggest fights at the time? Come on man.

And I really dont feel like getting into the whole Pac-Floyd nonsense.

[Dave Rado]

So I dont get what the fuss is about. No one said Baldi was this great legendary fighter.

The TS was trying to make out that he was a much better fighter than he was.