Just rewatched the Cotto Vs Pac Fight...

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  • sNiTcH
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    #21
    it was entertaining. Cotto gave his best. He is still one of my favorite fighter, pac as well.

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    • jason100x
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      #22
      The first five or six rounds of that fight are just about the most entertaining rounds I've seen in a recent fight. I was watching that fight live at a bar with a really good sound system and there was some real electricity in the room when they were nailing each other and those shots just reverberated throughout the crowded bar.

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      • lfc19titles
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        #23
        Originally posted by Ray*
        Exactly, Everytime Cotto upped his level he find Pac 3 above that level.. He tried but the fight wasnt competitive at all, I knew Pac would win but the way he won was more impressive than i would ever imagine.. He looked Great in that fight.
        Yup, you know the Margo fight, I am now looking to see how good Pac looks, I think personally it is only downhill for pac, he is ageing now and isn't as active as he used to be. I wonder if he still has the huge stamina level to fight his style. I think everyone was surprised at his movement and his angle/combination punches as whole.

        You know when mayweather snr said Pac must be on something after the fight, it means he was shocked at how great pac was, he was shook up.

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #24
          Pacqiauo dominated, i knew Pacqiauo would win like he did. The first couple rounds were competitive then as soon Pacqiauo was able to get into a rhytm with his speed and begin to back Cotto up i knew it was a wrap, Cotto can't fight backing up, doesnt clinch, and is too slow compared to Pacqiauo to beat him, for these reasons it was very one sided as i imagined. Only thing i was a little suprised about how was big Manny looked at 147, i thought he would look a little small but he looked great at that weight.

          As for Cotto, he wasn't the same fighter he was before Margarito, but either way the Pacqiauo that fought Cotto that night beats any version of Cotto.

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          • fenixbb
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            #25
            Pacquiao beat a weigh drained Cotto @ 145 who trained himself. Freddie takes any advantages for Pacquiao do not forget that.

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            • Ray*
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              #26
              Originally posted by jason100x
              The first five or six rounds of that fight are just about the most entertaining rounds I've seen in a recent fight. I was watching that fight live at a bar with a really good sound system and there was some real electricity in the room when they were nailing each other and those shots just reverberated throughout the crowded bar.
              I watched it alone in disbelief....Screaming like a girl..lol

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              • Mojita
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                #27
                He didn't look bad but he could have won with better patience and a better corner...He was just trying to blitz Pacquiao after round 1. Had he just try to box and pick body shots to slow Pacquiao down then he would had a better chance, but oh well. Pacquiao was the better man and proved it. Cotto tried what he could.

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                • Bring It On
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                  #28
                  It was a good fight. Everybody saying that Cotto was shot, weight-drained or whatever are ******ed.

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                  • Beater_of_ass
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                    #29
                    I don't think Cotto is shot he just did the same thing he has for 3 fights in a row. Against Mosley, he started boxing a bit more but that seemed like more of a tactical move and it worked wonders in round 10 and 11. The 12th by his own admission he stopped attacking because of the cut from the headbutt, it was the 12th round he felt he had the fight won no point is opening up the cut worse. However, in every other fight I've seen him use it has been because he doesn't know anything else to do, its like he's always had one gameplan and he can't adjust (I blame this on his corner.)

                    I think Cotto's been simply missing guidance in his corner for a while, even before the Marg fight. During the Marg fight you could tell from the outset his corner had the wrong gameplan, in the first round Cotto comes back to his corner and they tell him to do the same thing. Well that first round Cotto was already sitting in the ropes, which is why he lost the fight. Steward already knew how the fight would play out just listening to his commentating, it was until round 6 or 7 when Cotto had no gas did they start telling him to stay out of the corner. Then for the Clottey fight Cotto tried to outpunch him, but he couldn't even hurt Clottey because of the defense he went right into sit in the ropes. He was never really hurt by Clottey except for the cut, but he did that because it just didn't seem that he knew anything else and his corner only made it worse.

                    Same in the Manny fight, Cotto went in trying to slug it out. However, instead of putting combo's together like he did against Marg, Judah, Mosley essentially like he did in every fight he had a decent trainer. However, with Manny he was fine with one or two hits and then stopped. It was obvious that Cotto had severely gotten worse as a fighter technically. All his bad habits were even worse in the Manny fight, specifically how low he was when punching and his horrific balance.

                    Essentially, I think Cotto simply needs a better trainer and I think the Foreman fight showed this. Just listening to the training difference is like night/day. Telling him to keep jabbing, that he is losing rounds, building confidence by telling him he looks far stronger. Its just the stuff that Cotto needed and was badly missing, I'd rather hear I'm losing and you tell me what I need to do to win, than hear "we can recover, we can do it." Which is all Cotto's trainer was telling him during the Manny fight, or that all Manny has is a left, just ****** ****** training. Even better though Steward has Cotto watching tapes himself and has Cotto study up on his opponent more. Cotto used to bring it sparring partners that did the opposite of what the opponent would do so he could train for anything. He also never used to watch tape, Steward is exactly what Cotto needed I think, essentially a focus that was always missing in Cotto's career, which is why I think he's received so many beatings, especially after the Mosley fight.

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                    • jaskieee
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      Cotto was a great fighter and if he didnt have a bit of success, Pac really would be superman, and he isnt.

                      Cotto has had success against every fighter he ever fought. He had success against Margarito as well. He had much more success over margarito than he did Pac.

                      Shows how phenomenal Manny is.
                      Good point. Everyone refers to the severe beating he took against Margarito (with or without plaster we will probably never know) however Margarito took a bad beating himself and although Cotto was retreating and starting to absorb punishment i still had him winning that fight until the 11th round knockdown and then stoppage.

                      There is no shame in getting beaten by Manny Pacquiao the way he did, i will even go out on a limb and suggest that he looked better early in that fight than he did pre-Margarito. He was simply beaten by the best fighter in the world at a weight that was ideal for pac and not so ideal for him in my opinion.

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