Mosley is a only a borderline great fighter to me.

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  • Rome-By-Ko
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    #61
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    The only welter to do so? Oscar stopped Rivera in 8. And Whitaker put him on his ass twice in their rematch. both long before Shane did it.
    Hoya TKO Rivera not KO right??And was it at WW?I remember watching that fight and they said Rivera was never KO'd by a WW??

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      #62
      Theres actually quite a bit of boxing fans who feel the same way and aren't wrong for doing so.

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        #63
        Originally posted by romebyko
        Hoya TKO Rivera not KO right??And was it at WW?I remember watching that fight and they said Rivera was never KO'd by a WW??
        It was at welter and TKO or KO he stopped him. And def put him on his ass with a right hand (his weak punch). Pernell dropped him twice in one fight. Don't know what announcer said that but they were buggin. BTW, I'm not taking anything away from Shane. In fact, all this makes his win over Oscar that much impressive. Everybody thought he was going to get his head taken off.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
          Jab is pure garbage, can't believe he hasn't fixed it. He doesn't adapt and when he's far behind on the scorecard he resorts to looking for that one big shot. Neither can he cut off the ring. Of course, I wouldn't say he's SHOT, more like you need to put him in there against Kirkland, Angulo, a come foward opponent, there he'll look like a million bucks. In his prime none of that really mattered because he was such a speed demon.
          Spot on. He doesn't connect with his jab and is more of a fighter than a boxer. He needs a come forward fighter, the typical ''mexican style'' to look real good.

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            #65
            Originally posted by romebyko
            I must say this..TBH I don't think Cotto would have stood a chance with the younger Mosley..Forest not only was a good boxer but he was a big boxer..Same for Wright..May did his thing and Mora was on the run for the full 12 rds...Shane has always had trouble with boxers even when he was fighting in the LW div he had troubles with Leija cause of movement and his jab,Leija was a decent fighter with skill.. But Mosley was and still is a will fighter,a fighter who fights off shear determination..When he was younger he could do this better now he has fallen off..The Mora fight was nothing more then Mosley showing his age..A younger Mosley kills Mora dead..
            yeah Cotto ran for his life those last few round against Mosley but I thought Cotto had the right strategy early in that fight which got him ahead enough to win and hold on

            and yes absolutely Vernon being 6'0 and Winky being 5'11, yeah that did make it extremely tough for Mosley and on top of that both guys had GREAT jabs

            I am not trying to discredit Mosley's or his career at all like I said he is a true legend IMO and a great guy but his weakness in his last two fights has always been his weakness, all they have to do is put Mosley in the ring with a guy that loves to fight coming forward and engage then we will see the classic Mosley, I don't think he is done, until I see people start to just overpower Mosley and just walk right through him....then I personally don't think he is done as a fighter, at this point in their career...guys like Mosley, JMM and Hopkins...they have every right to cherry pick and pick and choose who they want to fight

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              #66
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              It was at welter and TKO or KO he stopped him. And def put him on his ass with a right hand (his weak punch). Pernell dropped him twice in one fight. Don't know what announcer said that but they were buggin. BTW, I'm not taking anything away from Shane. In fact, all this makes his win over Oscar that much impressive. Everybody thought he was going to get his head taken off.
              Oh ok I remember Merchant saying it twice thanks for correcting me..I also feel that was Mosley biggest win to date(Hoya win)

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                #67
                Originally posted by sicko
                yeah Cotto ran for his life those last few round against Mosley but I thought Cotto had the right strategy early in that fight which got him ahead enough to win and hold on

                and yes absolutely Vernon being 6'0 and Winky being 5'11, yeah that did make it extremely tough for Mosley and on top of that both guys had GREAT jabs

                I am not trying to discredit Mosley's or his career at all like I said he is a true legend IMO and a great guy but his weakness in his last two fights has always been his weakness, all they have to do is put Mosley in the ring with a guy that loves to fight coming forward and engage then we will see the classic Mosley, I don't think he is done, until I see people start to just overpower Mosley and just walk right through him....then I personally don't think he is done as a fighter, at this point in their career...guys like Mosley, JMM and Hopkins...they have every right to cherry pick and pick and choose who they want to fight
                I agree...

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by sicko
                  Mosley is GREAT...against fighters that fight coming forward, for years I have told people that Mosley has LIMITED BOXING SKILLS and he is a HEAD HUNTER

                  yes he is still a legend, yes a Hall Of Famer but he weakness has ALWAYS been against Boxers: the late Vernon Forrest TWICE, Winky Wright TWICE, Cotto (not a PURE BOXER but has some pretty good boxing skills), Mayweather and now Mora, you can stay outside and Jab the hell out of Mosley all night and he would run into those jabs ALL NIGHT trying to land a big punch
                  Mosley was a terrific body-puncher. But yeah, he has had his problems with skilled technical boxers, and himself has been a bit of a wild slugger. People look at his speed and athleticism and go "oh, what a terrific boxer". He's always fought more like a slugger than a boxer.

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