Comments Thread For: Vitali Klitschko Compares Wladimir With Muhammad Ali

[Too_Slick]

Should this be considered a huge insult to Ali, or a greatly undeserving comment to Wlad.

[BattlingNelson]

Vitali is right. Wlad needs his Frazier.

Ali didn't have 3 stoppage losses though.

[Pugilistic™]

Wladimir Klitschko is a great fighter and he proved it by clearly being the most dominant heavyweight of his era but comparing him to Ali is taking it a little too far.

When you compare the two, it's clear that both of them were great in their respective eras but what seperates Ali from Wladimir is their level of competition.

Ali's level of competition was clearly much harder and he simply beat better fighters than Wlad. I'm not discrediting Wladimir because he has beat some good fighters and he has no control of how good the fighters are in his division but when it comes down to it, they simply don't match up to the fighters Ali faced and beat.

[Die Antwoord]

Vitali is right. Wlad needs his Frazier.

Ali didn't have 3 stoppage losses though.

Nope just a bunch of controversial wins by biased judges.

Did you know one judge in the Foreman fight had Foreman winning 0 rounds. Watch that fight and tell me how Foreman won 0 rounds. Maybe Foreman wouldnt have punched himself out if he thought he could get a fair decision.

Wlad losing to Purrity is a joke, a young guy, 25 lbs lighter than he is today fighting his 12th match in 12 months. Wow, he gassed...get over it.

Wlad losing to Brewster, he got revenge for, Ali lost to Frazier and Norton clearly and decisively the first time. Also wlad was most likely drugged.

Wlad lost to Sanders...tons of fighters have fights like this, the great ones are the ones who come back.

[Dave Rado]

Muhammad Ali was faster prettier and smarter than Wladimir. All wlad has is size THATS IT. and a long ass reach

You're being ridiculous. What on earth has prettiness got to do with it?

Valuev and Dimitrenko have more size and reach than Wlad. Neither would win a single round against Wlad.

Wlad under Steward's tutelage has size and reach allied to incredible athleticism for a big man, very good overall skills, and an ATG jab. Ali never fought anyone like that.

And Ali wasn't always as smart in the ring as you appear to think he was. When a decent opponent came up with a perfect game plan, he struggled. Norton was far from an ATG Heavyweight, although he was very good, but Futch gave him the perfect game plan, which Ali never came up with a solution for in three fights. If it hadn't been for biased judging, Norton would have won two of their three fights - and even their second fight, which Ali did deserve to win, was very close. And you can bet your life that Steward would give Wlad the perfect game plan if he and Ali could fight in a fantasy match-up. Ali wasn't very smart in the Thrilla in Manilla either. His game plan played right into Frazier's hands, and only his extraordinary determination and pride saved him. His game plan in their second fight was smart, but in the third fight he was ******.

Vitali admits that Wlad doesn't have a legacy to even remotely compare with Ali's legacy, because of his lack of strong opposition. And the Wlad of five years ago isn't comparable with the great fighters of the past either. But under Steward, Wlad has improved as much as Pacquiao has improved under Roach, and as much as Lewis improved under Steward. The Wlad of today would certainly have given even a prime Ali an extremely difficult fight in a fantasy match-up.

[BattlingNelson]

Nope just a bunch of controversial wins by biased judges.

Did you know one judge in the Foreman fight had Foreman winning 0 rounds. Watch that fight and tell me how Foreman won 0 rounds. Maybe Foreman wouldnt have punched himself out if he thought he could get a fair decision.

Wlad losing to Purrity is a joke, a young guy, 25 lbs lighter than he is today fighting his 12th match in 12 months. Wow, he gassed...get over it.

Wlad losing to Brewster, he got revenge for, Ali lost to Frazier and Norton clearly and decisively the first time. Also wlad was most likely drugged.

Wlad lost to Sanders...tons of fighters have fights like this, the great ones are the ones who come back.

Wlad lost those fights. End of story.

[Dave Rado]

Wladimir Klitschko is a great fighter and he proved it by clearly being the most dominant heavyweight of his era but comparing him to Ali is taking it a little too far.

When you compare the two, it's clear that both of them were great in their respective eras but what seperates Ali from Wladimir is their level of competition.

Ali's level of competition was clearly much harder and he simply beat better fighters than Wlad. I'm not discrediting Wladimir because he has beat some good fighters and he has no control of how good the fighters are in his division but when it comes down to it, they simply don't match up to the fighters Ali faced and beat.

Vitali admits that though.

[Dick Buffman]

Wladimir Klitschko is a great fighter and he proved it by clearly being the most dominant heavyweight of his era but comparing him to Ali is taking it a little too far.

When you compare the two, it's clear that both of them were great in their respective eras but what seperates Ali from Wladimir is their level of competition.

Ali's level of competition was clearly much harder and he simply beat better fighters than Wlad. I'm not discrediting Wladimir because he has beat some good fighters and he has no control of how good the fighters are in his division but when it comes down to it, they simply don't match up to the fighters Ali faced and beat.

This is more mythology than actual fact and its perpetrated by the American boxing establishment.

If you actually go back and see someone like Sonny Liston fight you'll see that he's about as good as Travis Walker.

None of those old time Hw's would be able to compete with either Klitschko.

Imagine Frazier Klitschko?

lol...

[Dave Rado]

We are not talking about a green Ali, that was floored by Henry Cooper, but a prime Ali, the same version that made ATG Liston look like a fool.

He fought Liston immediately after Cooper. Are you really trying to pretend that he went from green to prime in a single fight?

[PEBBLES!]

He fought Liston immediately after Cooper. Are you really trying to pretend that he went from green to prime in a single fight?

Most definitely possible.

The Ali that outclassed Liston was miles superior to the version that fought Cooper in Britain.

We're talking about 8 months which is a long time for a 20/21 year old.