Floyd fanz: what peak, great, natural welter has floyd beat?

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  • Bhopreign
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    #21
    Originally posted by Willie Swindler
    please name me a elite fighter floyd fought at 140 & 154. also taking out mosley who was 38 going on 39 & was 1 year 5 months of his last fight, name me a elite fighter floyd fought at 147.

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    Pacquaio hasnt fought an elite fighter at 147.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Bhopreign
      Thanks for not answering this TS.
      I did answer....idiot. either your in juniro high and only know boxing since 2000 and think mayweather is some great once in a lifetime fighter, or you simply do not know. robinson, leonard, dlh, mosley, Pacman, ali, hearns, chavez, whitacker, etc... the list goes on and on of fighters that were great and risked it vs fighters that posed serious challenges in the ring, many times like leonard when he faced hearns and hagler, they faced fighters that put them at physical disadvantages.

      Mayweeather has not. I dont want to hear the bs about Mayweather moved up. So has everyone else. Mosley moved up, and still risked it. Leonard moved up and risked it, Hearns, same thing, Dlh same thing. Why does Mayweather move up and mayweather fans make excuses like he should not have to fight the best peak young welters, because he moved up..What a joke.

      Learn boxing.


      There are Williams, Cotto, Pacman, at the time Margo... Winky wright when mayweathr had a signed contract but backed out.....

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      • Bhopreign
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        #23
        Originally posted by wpink1
        I did answer....idiot. either your in juniro high and only know boxing since 2000 and think mayweather is some great once in a lifetime fighter, or you simply do not know. robinson, leonard, dlh, mosley, Pacman, ali, hearns, chavez, whitacker, etc... the list goes on and on of fighters that were great and risked it vs fighters that posed serious challenges in the ring, many times like leonard when he faced hearns and hagler, they faced fighters that put them at physical disadvantages.

        Mayweeather has not. I dont want to hear the bs about Mayweather moved up. So has everyone else. Mosley moved up, and still risked it. Leonard moved up and risked it, Hearns, same thing, Dlh same thing. Why does Mayweather move up and mayweather fans make excuses like he should not have to fight the best peak young welters, because he moved up..What a joke.

        Learn boxing.


        There are Williams, Cotto, Pacman, at the time Margo... Winky wright when mayweathr had a signed contract but backed out.....
        Again you have not answered my question on what peak, great, natural welter Robinson beat. Keep dodging.

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          #24
          the reality is yes. If you understand boxing and the history, floyd always came in the ring around 139-141 when he was at the lower wieghts, and anyting above 140 makes him a welter. Back in SRL day, you did not get the benefit of day before weigh in.

          By the way, according to your criteria, that would mean that Ricky Hatton was a natural Weltweight, considering his track record on fight night weight. If Floyd is a natural Welterweight, then Ricky sure as hell was one.

          And he was at his prime too.

          So there is your answer to your thread question nimrod.
          Last edited by cupocity303; 09-05-2010, 05:19 PM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Bhopreign
            Pacquaio hasnt fought an elite fighter at 147.
            We are not talking about pacman, and pacman is not saying he is best of all time. We are talking about Gayweather.

            Pacman did fight Cotto and Clottey. Cotto is an elite fighter at welter. just because a brick embedded glove wearing margo beat him, IMO did not make him all of a sudden a bum.

            Why has not Mayweathr fougtht any of these fighters.

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            • Bhopreign
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              #26
              Originally posted by wpink1
              We are not talking about pacman, and pacman is not saying he is best of all time. We are talking about Gayweather.

              Pacman did fight Cotto and Clottey. Cotto is an elite fighter at welter. just because a brick embedded glove wearing margo beat him, IMO did not make him all of a sudden a bum.

              Why has not Mayweathr fougtht any of these fighters.
              If Clottey is an elite welter, what elite welter has he beat? You still havent answered the question about Robinson, why bring him up if you have no examples.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Bhopreign
                Again you have not answered my question on what peak, great, natural welter Robinson beat. Keep dodging.
                Will somebody tell this idot the question has been answered previously. Just look at through the thread. Then when you find my response, I will welcome you response. Remember my question, what peak, great (as considered great by being a all time top fighter not a judah), natural welter has Mayweather beaten...

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by wpink1
                  Will somebody tell this idot the question has been answered previously. Just look at through the thread. Then when you find my response, I will welcome you response. Remember my question, what peak, great (as considered great by being a all time top fighter not a judah), natural welter has Mayweather beaten...
                  But your response was wrong, you have no clue what youre talking about.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Bhopreign
                    But your response was wrong, you have no clue what youre talking about.
                    So your telling me that Robinson did not beat these great fighters.... such as Jake LaMotta, Carmen Basilio, Gene Fullmer, Carl 'Bobo' Olson, Henry Armstrong, Rocky Graziano and Kid Gavilan

                    If he didnt then yes I am wrong. however according to boxing records and historians, Robinson did...Now tell me who mayweathr beat that is on the same page as these fighters, or Duran, hearns, Hagler. and was less than the age of 34....and was a natural welter..

                    We are waiting...

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                      Was expecting a hard question. Anyway, Carlos Baldomir, although that was somewhat of a robbery.
                      carlos baldomir has never been a elite fighter.

                      ever.

                      Originally posted by cupocity303
                      Natural Welterweights (I.E. Joshua Clottey as just one example, or how about Carlos Baldomir) come in at 155-160 on fight night.

                      Floyd came in at 150 Vs Oscar and at 148 on fight night, doesn't look like a natural Welterweight to me.
                      joshua clottey is not a natural welterweight. he's a natural middleweight.

                      Originally posted by Bhopreign
                      Pacquaio hasnt fought an elite fighter at 147.
                      miguel cotto. clottey was a top 5 welterweight.

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