Floyd fanz: what peak, great, natural welter has floyd beat?

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  • cupocity303
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    #31
    Originally posted by wpink1
    We are not talking about pacman, and pacman is not saying he is best of all time. We are talking about Gayweather.

    Pacman did fight Cotto and Clottey. Cotto is an elite fighter at welter. just because a brick embedded glove wearing margo beat him, IMO did not make him all of a sudden a bum.

    Why has not Mayweathr fougtht any of these fighters.

    Ahh the true emotions finally are starting to come out.

    For a while, I thought you might be a rational poster I just disagreed with.

    But you're exposing yourself here.

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    • Tyson.
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      #32
      Baldomir, Judah, Hatton and Mosley were all champions at WW.

      Cotto turned down a Floyd fight at 140. Margarito is a cheater. PWill never has had a sustained run as a champ at WW or any other weight class.

      Pacquiao is the only guy who Mayweather could be accused of ducking. However Pac was the reason the fight didnt happen in March.

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      • r.burgundy
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        #33
        Originally posted by wpink1
        Can floyd fans please answer this for me. before we even dream of putting him in there with Robinson, leoanrd, hearns. All fighters that would slaughter floyd.
        none.because there aint none to fight

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        • Bhopreign
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          #34
          Originally posted by wpink1
          So your telling me that Robinson did not beat these great fighters.... such as Jake LaMotta, Carmen Basilio, Gene Fullmer, Carl 'Bobo' Olson, Henry Armstrong, Rocky Graziano and Kid Gavilan
          You said peak, great, NATURAL welters, dont change the rules in the middle of the game.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Willie Swindler


            joshua clottey is not a natural welterweight. he's a natural middleweight.



            When he actually starts fighting at Middleweight, and is at any point unable to make the 147 limit at the weigh-in's, that's when I will consider him something else besides a natural WELTERWEIGHT.

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            • MOTHER DUCKER
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              #36
              PAC in 2011

              I'm interested though ts do you consider PAC a great fighter seeing as he hasn't fought an elite/peak ww?

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              • wpink1
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                #37
                Originally posted by Mayweather_
                Baldomir, Judah, Hatton and Mosley were all champions at WW.

                Cotto turned down a Floyd fight at 140. Margarito is a cheater. PWill never has had a sustained run as a champ at WW or any other weight class.

                Pacquiao is the only guy who Mayweather could be accused of ducking. However Pac was the reason the fight didnt happen in March.
                So your saying that you have to now have a sustained run as a champ. Hmm Tommy hearns just beat cuevas and had one defense when ray leonard fought him, same thing about duran..had just moved up had 8 fights just beat palimino. These were fighters that clearly were the best at welter, were the champs as back then you only had 2 champs you you do not have bums with titles that a mayweather can face instead of margo or Williams, or pacman or cotto.

                Cotto has asked mayweather at 147 to fight several times.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by wpink1
                  Can floyd fans please answer this for me. before we even dream of putting him in there with Robinson, leoanrd, hearns. All fighters that would slaughter floyd.
                  Well, same question goes for Pac you moron. And we all know you're a Pac fan.

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                  • Bhopreign
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by wpink1
                    So your saying that you have to now have a sustained run as a champ. Hmm Tommy hearns just beat cuevas and had one defense when ray leonard fought him, same thing about duran..had just moved up had 8 fights just beat palimino. These were fighters that clearly were the best at welter, were the champs as back then you only had 2 champs you you do not have bums with titles that a mayweather can face instead of margo or Williams, or pacman or cotto.

                    Cotto has asked mayweather at 147 to fight several times.
                    You still havent answered TS. Show me those natural great welters that Robinson beat, Ill help you out, you wont find not one.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by cupocity303

                      When he actually starts fighting at Middleweight, and is at any point unable to make the 147 limit at the weigh-in's, that's when I will consider him something else besides a natural WELTERWEIGHT.
                      if you had any modicum of intelligence you would know that with the 24 rehydration rule, fighters are not fighting at their NATURAL WEIGHT.

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