Help!!! I'm Starting To Think Margarito Has A Shot!

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  • Silencers
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    #61
    Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
    100% agree.

    Whats strange to me, is that Williams did not move a lot, which would of made you think, theoretically anyway, that Margarito might! of been able to catch him on the turn once or twice.

    I mean Williams was using those tight little turns from what i remember, which is still in range to a degree, although granted, a littler safe when you have stepped of the line.
    Sometimes those little steps to the side is all it takes to offset rhythm and neutralize workrate. Pacquiao will probably incorporate more lateral movement than Williams but I expect him to turn on Margarito in a similar manner to what Williams did when he feels he's close to the ropes.

    Williams basically had the same thing done to him when he fought Quintana.

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    • Dynamite Kid
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      #62
      Originally posted by Silencers
      Sometimes those little steps to the side is all it takes to offset rhythm and neutralize workrate. Pacquiao will probably incorporate more lateral movement than Williams but I expect him to turn on Margarito in a similar manner to what Williams did when he feels he's close to the ropes.

      Williams basically had the same thing done to him when he fought Quintana.
      Yeah, which i anticipate will probably give Pacquiao more time to think and set up.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
        Yeah, which i anticipate will probably give Pacquiao more time to think and set up.
        Definitely, which is also part of the reason why I think 70 or 80 punches a round will do the job because he will have more time to think than Williams did with his little steps around Margarito, Williams had to keep that workrate because he never really had the room to think about doing too much else. Pacquiao is just much faster on his feet than Williams which will give him the added time he needs.
        Last edited by Silencers; 09-01-2010, 06:42 AM.

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          #64
          i need to stop rewatching the 1st few rounds of cotto-marg.

          every time i rewatch it the more i think pacquiao will blow marg out.

          especially now with the possibility the marg might be past it.


          pac might not be able to do what mosley did with marg but he certainly can do what cotto did the 1st few rounds.

          i hope pac dukes it out. might be margs only chance for an upset.

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            #65
            The only way Margarito has a chance is if Pacquiao is slipping. And recent evidence suggests that it's Tony, not Manny who may bear that distinction. Plus, he doesn't have that one-punch power that could turn the fight at a moment's notice. And he's going to need to do something to keep Pacquiao from darting in and out from a distance or when Pac is inside slipping his long blows and countering. It's the perfect style matchup for Manny. Margarito will come forward and provide plenty of opportunities for Pac to hit and move. And Pac is going to back him up some too, you better believe it. I'm not expecting a stoppage although it's quite possible. Pacquiao may have one or two hairy moments, but he should win this easy via wide decision.

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              #66
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              The only way Margarito has a chance is if Pacquiao is slipping. And recent evidence suggests that it's Tony, not Manny who may bear that distinction. Plus, he doesn't have that one-punch power that could turn the fight at a moment's notice. And he's going to need to do something to keep Pacquiao from darting in and out from a distance or when Pac is inside slipping his long blows and countering. It's the perfect style matchup for Manny. Margarito will come forward and provide plenty of opportunities for Pac to hit and move. And Pac is going to back him some too, you better believe it. I'm not expecting a stoppage although it's quite possible. Pacquiao may have one or two hairy moments, but he should win this easy via wide decision.
              I think thats a key point to, Margarito's avenue to scoring a KO, which is generally considered his only chance to win, is to break Pac down with an accumulation cause he is not a big enough puncher to do it any other way, only your talking about a guy with the fastest feet in Boxing, and a guy who has virtually no wrinkles to his game(Margarito) to stop Pacquiao using that asset, which is vital for him(Margarito) to start what he needs to do, to pin him down and wear him out.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                maybe.

                he is still bigger and taller and heavier. being at 150-151 helps rather than 147.

                people underrate marg because of mosley-marg.

                that's a bad example. pacquiao doesn't have the physical tools to do what mosley did.

                i watched cotto-marg again the other day though and......marg is so damn slow.

                only chance is if he can take pacquiao's punches like nothing. if pacquiao's punches can stun him or hurt him , he has no chance.
                I dont think there is any chance manny will stop marg like mosley did.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by jaskieee
                  I dont think there is any chance manny will stop marg like mosley did.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                    I think thats a key point to, Margarito's avenue to scoring a KO, which is generally considered his only chance to win, is to break Pac down with an accumulation cause he is not a big enough puncher to do it any other way, only your talking about a guy with the fastest feet in Boxing, and a guy who has virtually no wrinkles to his game(Margarito) to stop Pacquiao using that asset, which is vital for him(Margarito) to start what he needs to do, to pin him down and wear him out.
                    Yeah, I see Margarito as the one who will probably get worn down. He's been in a few more wars and it really shows on his side while Pacquiao is still at his peak.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by jaskieee
                      I dont think there is any chance manny will stop marg like mosley did.
                      me too.

                      if pac wins by tko over marg it'll be like pac-odlh. just because the other guy isn't doing anything and the other guy can't miss. (though i doubt marg quits in his corner , it'll be ref or corner stoppage)

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