24 hr. RE-HYDRATION RULE makes CRITICISM of CATCHWEIGHT fights ILLEGITIMATE

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

DLH vs Manny wasn't at a catchweight I know, but this is an example that could happen in a catchweight fight. DLH had never fought at 147 for a long time, when he tried to make 147 it seemed he put a lot of strain on his body so he didn't rehydrate properly the next day (he was 147 on fight night), because he didn't rehydrate properly he couldn't be as strong at the weight.

If you set up a fight at the catchweight, and they can only just make the limit of a certain weight class, the same thing can happen obviously. Its okay you saying the 24 hour time makes it okay and gives them plenty of time and makes no difference, fair enough because I dont think it will make much difference to Marg... but then why did Manny and his team demand a catchweight? If its not gonna make any difference, why make the hassle of going trough with it and have it at the JMW limit? The fact of the matter is, they are fighting for a world title, which isn't at the proper JMW limit, it might not make any difference to Marg... but that doesn't change the fact that it seems they are trying to take something away from him.

you are using 1 extreme anomaly of an example. Oscar lost because he was old & washed up. not because of the weight. FFS, stevie forbes busted him up. Sure, he could have put up a better fight vs pac had he weighed in at 154, but the results would have been the same. i have posted several examples in the thread of this.

[A7glow]

Pay attention to what I wrote. I mentioned dehydration because that is an easy way to lose weight for many boxers-through fluid loss. I've known boxers and wrestlers that needed to make weight and it was through dehydration. As a fighter it makes sense to dehydrate (versus not eat, for example) because you are only losing fluids, not muscle mass. I am not saying that in all cases a catch-weight affects the fighters, I am saying that it can and does have an affect in some cases. You are acting under the assumption that catch-weights don't have an affect at all. Unfortunately, that is a false assumption. Rapid weight loss (by whatever means) can have an affect-as I have shown you with the information about one of the methods of rapid weight loss. You can continue to put up examples of catch-weight bouts if you like, but that does not change the fact that rapid weight loss can be damaging.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Pay attention to what I wrote. I mentioned dehydration because that is an easy way to lose weight for many boxers-through fluid loss. I've known boxers and wrestlers that needed to make weight and it was through dehydration. As a fighter it makes sense to dehydrate (versus not eat, for example) because you are only losing fluids, not muscle mass. I am not saying that in all cases a catch-weight affects the fighters, I am saying that it can and does have an affect in some cases. You are acting under the assumption that catch-weights don't have an affect at all. Unfortunately, that is a false assumption. Rapid weight loss (by whatever means) can have an affect-as I have shown you with the information about one of the methods of rapid weight loss. You can continue to put up examples of catch-weight bouts if you like, but that does not change the fact that rapid weight loss can be damaging.

rapid weight loss? you act as if guys didnt know what their target weight is. You act as if fighters have 1 or 2 days to lose weight. They know what their target weight is when they signed up for the fight & they have the whole training camp to manage their weight. Ive given you tons of examples on bigger fighters having to make catcweights & not having a effect on the outcome of the fight. Ive given you examples of fighters who continually fight in divisions that are too small for them hence they are "weight drained" but still win.

Catchweights were made to prevent fight cancellations, not because of medical malfeasance.

[A7glow]

Again, you can continue to list examples of fighters that have gone on to win catch-weight bouts after competing in higher weight classes, but that does not mean that losing weight quickly doesn't affect your health in all cases. And yes, the fighters do know their weight and they do have time to reach said weight, however, if they are managing their weight so well, why do so many rehydrate 24 hours before the bout? I'll tell you why, it is because they dehydrated to make weight. Dehydration results in rapid weight loss and that is why they use it. If dehydration did not lower your weight (quickly), there would be no point.

[JDezi4]

I like how u always Cop out with the "stop acting like u do research on catchweights, no one does".

Do u really think no one does research on WEIGHT LOSS in general?
Did u even get my messages? Lmao

Did u get the ones where I explain how the 3 examples u placed r bad examples? Where I say The catchweight for Bernard was 2 pounds. And he ended up weight 3 pounds under the limit. Oscar had trouble at moving up in weight and as a result got beat.

Where I explain that Pernell Whitaker weight in at 140 3 fights earlier so the catchweight didn't have that kind of affect on him. It was actually 2 140lbers fighting at welterweight, which is why he still dominated.

I mean seriously did u just convince urself that I was "pretending" and ignore me? I really thought u were a boxing fan. U disappointed me, ur just a *******.

[The Evil 1-2]

It's very simple...the more you have to rehydrate due to a catchwight will have more of an adverse effect on your health than rehydrating from a specified weight of a certain weightclass. You refer to this as a placebo effect; my best advice is to drain yourself 10-15 lbs and then rehydrate and compete in something and see how well you do...most chances are, YOU'LL CHANGE YOUR MIND!

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

I like how u always Cop out with the "stop acting like u do research on catchweights, no one does".

Do u really think no one does research on WEIGHT LOSS in general?
Did u even get my messages? Lmao

Did u get the ones where I explain how the 3 examples u placed r bad examples? Where I say The catchweight for Bernard was 2 pounds. And he ended up weight 3 pounds under the limit. Oscar had trouble at moving up in weight and as a result got beat.

Where I explain that Pernell Whitaker weight in at 140 3 fights earlier so the catchweight didn't have that kind of affect on him. It was actually 2 140lbers fighting at welterweight, which is why he still dominated.

I mean seriously did u just convince urself that I was "pretending" and ignore me? I really thought u were a boxing fan. U disappointed me, ur just a *******.

you muggy **********faceasswipe,

i answered every pm you sent me. you were the one that hasnt responded to my last one. oscar weighed in at 155 vs hopkins. one freaking pound for a guy who was a 154 pounder the last half of his career. now he has trouble because of 1 lb? what a ****ing nincom****ingpoop you are.

It's very simple...the more you have to rehydrate due to a catchwight will have more of an adverse effect on your health than rehydrating from a specified weight of a certain weightclass. You refer to this as a placebo effect; my best advice is to drain yourself 10-15 lbs and then rehydrate and compete in something and see how well you do...most chances are, YOU'LL CHANGE YOUR MIND!

listen you ***** alt,

i have posted several examples of fighters who are allegedly "weight drained" yet continually win without problems. I suggest you do the same. Please save the oscar at 147 answer.

I got some more examples,

kermit cintron rehydrates close to super middle fighting at 154 & 147. Joshua clottey is another one that rehydrates to insane amount. Stop trying to play fake doctor online. You want to use literal medical examples of rehydration & use it to compare to boxers who have nutritionists & trainers & who have a whole training camp to make the targeted weight. they do it gradually over the course of a training camp time.

Stop trying to use literal medical definitions of dehydration & act like these boxers are rawandan refugees who are wandering in the african jungle who havent eaten & drank anything in weeks. Not even close to the same situation as a professional boxer trained to make weight.



****head

[JDezi4]

you muggy **********faceasswipe,

i answered every pm you sent me. you were the one that hasnt responded to my last one. oscar weighed in at 155 vs hopkins. one freaking pound for a guy who was a 154 pounder the last half of his career. now he has trouble because of 1 lb? what a ****ing nincom****ingpoop you are.



listen you ***** alt,

i have posted several examples of fighters who are allegedly "weight drained" yet continually win without problems. I suggest you do the same. Please save the oscar at 147 answer.

I got some more examples,

kermit cintron rehydrates close to super middle fighting at 154 & 147. Joshua clottey is another one that rehydrates to insane amount. Stop trying to play fake doctor online. You want to use literal medical examples of rehydration & use it to compare to boxers who have nutritionists & trainers & who have a whole training camp to make the targeted weight. they do it gradually over the course of a training camp time.

Stop trying to use literal medical definitions of dehydration & act like these boxers are rawandan refugees who are wandering in the african jungle who havent eaten & drank anything in weeks. Not even close to the same situation as a professional boxer trained to make weight.



****head

Lmao, everyone here that disagrees with u is a *****, right? Lmao, u fuc.king jack ass.

In the PM I sent u I specified that Oscar has trouble "fighting" Middleweights. If u'd have responded to that one and not been so much of a *******ed dum fu.k, u'd know that.

And I already posted reasons why ur examples don't support ur argument. But of course u don't listen to that becuz ur a ******* and if it doesn't support Pacquiao it's automatically connected to Floyd, and u don't bother acknowledging it. Ur a piece of walking shyt that wishes it fell out of Pacquiao's ass.

[bose]

It's very simple...the more you have to rehydrate due to a catchwight will have more of an adverse effect on your health than rehydrating from a specified weight of a certain weightclass. You refer to this as a placebo effect; my best advice is to drain yourself 10-15 lbs and then rehydrate and compete in something and see how well you do...most chances are, YOU'LL CHANGE YOUR MIND!

what he said

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Lmao, everyone here that disagrees with u is a *****, right? Lmao, u fuc.king jack ass.

In the PM I sent u I specified that Oscar has trouble "fighting" Middleweights. If u'd have responded to that one and not been so much of a *******ed dum fu.k, u'd know that.

And I already posted reasons why ur examples don't support ur argument. But of course u don't listen to that becuz ur a ******* and if it doesn't support Pacquiao it's automatically connected to Floyd, and u don't bother acknowledging it. Ur a piece of walking shyt that wishes it fell out of Pacquiao's ass.

oscar has trouble fighting middleweights yet on your pm you say oscar was winning on the scorecards? He also beat strum by the way (of robbery). Still oscar fought hopkins at a catchweight. bernard weighed in one pound more than oscar, so according to your baseless theory with no evidence, hopkins should have been weightdrained & dominated. how that go? ive stated multiple examples here of fights & fighters who are allegedly weight drained & examples of catchweight fights, you ****head fanboy ***** groupies havent. the fact that you took the time to flame me here & on a pm when i dont even know who you are here, & you keep defending floyd, & on the red, & has a join date of july, you are a flaming *****sexual fluffing alt.