24 hr. RE-HYDRATION RULE makes CRITICISM of CATCHWEIGHT fights ILLEGITIMATE

[savorduhflavor]

One of the most ill-informed threads I've seen here.

I hope the TS feels ******.

[crold1]

i was about to make a thread about this...

guys comparing pacquiao to hank and criticizing him, but fails to consider how armstrong never had to deal with the 24 hour rehydration rule.

so, lets make it 154 lbs same day weigh-in for pacquiao-margarito.

Hank was scarfing to barley make Welterweight and often gave up ten-plus in the ring. Langford gave up 20-30 sometimes. It's all relative, but if one is going to move up they face the same disadvantages higher they enjoyed lower on the scale with these weigh-on rules. Either you can compete against a modern Jr. Middle or not.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

It weakens a fighter to lose more weight than they would normally for a given weight class no matter the 24-hour rule and it gives an advantage to the man who doesn't have to drain extra. That man doesn't have to hope he'll feel 100% after rehydration, hope his body will hold down fluids. Losing an extra pound or two means less water the days before the fight, less food.

From a guy who won't let his blood be drawn too close to a fight because it makes him queasy, it's the ultimate in hypocrisy.

I hate the day before weigh-in, but I don't reecall any catchweights when bringing Solis or Larios up the scale to even the playing field. Margarito-Pac being for a 'title' is enough of a joke as it is. At 150, it's the pits, as disgusting as making LaLonde squeeze to 168 for Leonard.

how do you know? are you a professional boxer? have you boxed in this era's 24 hour weigh in?

are you a medical doctor?

if what you are saying is true then anybody who beats diego corrales, or nonito donaire, or hugo cazares, paul williams, or arthur abraham deserves zero credit. all those guys (just to name a few) are "weight drained" & are doing all sorts of evil to their body just to make weight in a weight class they dont belong.

you typed that response as if you know all the intricacies of the human body & have backed research about the pitfalls of catchweight fights. the boxing commission made that change. not john hopkins university with backed medical studies & research.

boxing commissions made that decision cliff. now you act like some pseudo physician & talk about all the advantages & disadvantages of the catchweight as if you have backed case studies & research supporting you.

[Rick Grimes]

For a fighter starting at 106lbs, a former flyweight champion, now fighting welterweights, it makes it all the more impressive the fact that the 24 hour rehydration rule means that on fight night, pac (who is not even a welterweight) is fighting junior middleweights & middleweights.

How much can we really hold it against him the 145lb catchweight & proposed 150lb catchweight vs cotto & margarito when the 24 rehydration stunt in today's era is in effect?

How do we analyze the 24 re hydration rule in historical context?

Old time fighters never had to deal with it. But in regards to pacquiao, who in 3 welterweight fights cant even make 147, how can we really criticize him when on fight night he's not even facing welterweights?

When henry armstrong fought welterweights, he fought welterweights on fight night. when pacquiao fights welterweights, he fights junior middleweights & middleweights on fight nights.

The 24 hr rehydration rule in today's era must be taken into consideration. It completely negates all the criticisms of catchweight fights.

The catchweight criticism is a inaccurate, unsubstantiated, superficial disadvantage/advantage because of the 24 rehydration rule.

Stay at the division you're comfortable at if you don't think you can compete at the division higher.

[savorduhflavor]

When you weaken yourself considerably to make weight, having 24 hr rehydration period doesn't just magically make you ok again.

Have you ever cut weight? That's not enough time for your body to get readjusted.

The weight may be there in pounds the next day, but your body is still a mess.

Bahahhahaha.....this guy red k's me. Are you 6?

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

When you weaken yourself considerably to make weight, having 24 hr rehydration period doesn't just magically make you ok again.

Have you ever cut weight? That's not enough time for your body to get readjusted.

The weight may be there in pounds the next day, but your body is still a mess.

are you a professional boxer? are you a physician? are you a scientist?

have you done research on catchweight fights & the 24 rehydration rule?

arthur abraham (when he was at 160), nonito donaire, hugo cazares(108), paul williams, kermit cintron, joshua clottey, all are fighting in divisions they dont really belong. you could say they where weight drained. yet they win fights & take advantage of the 24 hr weigh in. they dont have a problem with it.

yet posters on nsb have a problem with it. they act like physicians & type **** as if they have first hand knowledge of how a boxer feels & now the exact amount of advantage or disadvantage boxers have with the catchweights.

[crold1]

how do you know? are you a professional boxer? have you boxed in this era's 24 hour weigh in?

are you a medical doctor?

if what you are saying is true then anybody who beats diego corrales, or nonito donaire, or hugo cazares, paul williams, or arthur abraham deserves zero credit. all those guys (just to name a few) are "weight drained" & are doing all sorts of evil to their body just to make weight in a weight class they dont belong.

you typed that response as if you know all the intricacies of the human body & have backed research about the pitfalls of catchweight fights. the boxing commission made that change. not john hopkins university with backed medical studies & research.

boxing commissions made that decision cliff. now you act like some pseudo physician & talk about all the advantages & disadvantages of the catchweight as if you have backed case studies & research supporting you.

LOL...do you have studies which would back your claims that it doesn't? It's not like the day before weigh-in was decided upon by volumes of medical research. It was a reactionary decision largely after Spinks-Eddie Muhammad fell apart on the scale to protect against late cancellations.

Logically, drinking less water and eating less food while your opponent doesn't have to puts the opponent at a conditioning disadvantage. Making weight often requires that anyways and its hard as hell; catchweights ask for even more of it. Depending on how tough the extra pounds shaved were, and its assumed conditional, it can make the rehydration period both fighters enjoy a recovery period for one.

Further, the arguments about AA etc. are pointless in this context. When he didn't feel he could safely make 160 (or found it more profitable not too), he moved up to give himself 8 more lbs. to play with. That's the safest play. Margarito moved up with seven pounds to play with that becomes 3 for this fight. Will it hurt him? Maybe or maybe not. No way of knowing how he individually responds.

[Russian Crushin]

That would probably make it more dangerous. You would likely still have fighters draining but they would not be given the time to recover.

Ehh ... i just dont like the fact that a WW can come in to a fight weighing 160+

[Mr. Fantastic]

where are the *****s at?

sugar ray leonard had 2 catchweight title fights i wonder why horus doesnt make a iraqi war comparison with leonard?

Leonard is black that's why.

[KILLA RIGHT]

This has to be one of the dumbest ***en threads I have ever seen on the net. Just look at oscar vs manny you idiot