Boxing Vs MMA - The real test of skill

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HAha, alright. But hey Kimbo wasn't all that bad, until his chin got tested.

You mean when he fought someone who wasn't a sitting duck.

[RA-Box]

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If you want to play that game then boxers can still do everything they do as well with no shoes.


In fact Brazilian Jiu Jitsu are also at a disadvantage because they have no Gi on.

Haha, no they can't man. Have you ever tried Boxing with no shoes?? Totally, totally different.

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Dude Ray Mercer is ANCIENT, RETIRED.

Your Argument would make sense if it was a current, young, or atleast ACTIVE BOXER.

KJ noons is an active talented Boxer who has had a lot of success in MMA and you know why? Because he has a ***ing ground game!!!


Thats what it all comes down too. If a boxer wants to be able to make his boxing askills work in a cage he has to have a ground game the end.


It's doesn't matter if you have Pacman or Floyd Mayweather in there. No ground game=useless boxing skills.

[fathergll]

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Haha, no they can't man. Have you ever tried Boxing with no shoes?? Totally, totally different.

Have you ever tried Collegiate wrestling without shoes?

[RA-Box]

And don't get me wrong. I'm not hating on MMA.

I just have two points here:

1. It's just not a level playing field for all martial arts

2. Toney/Couture proved nothing other than Randy Couture can beat James Toney in an UFC sanctioned fight.

[RA-Box]

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Have you ever tried Collegiate wrestling without shoes?

Ok, fair enough, but my point is, what does the rule favor? I get that wrestlers like shoes too, but in a fight, if shoes are not worn, you're telling me the impact on the style is the same across the board?? No way.

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Haha, no they can't man. Have you ever tried Boxing with no shoes?? Totally, totally different.

Are you ***ing kidding me? Thanks to thousands of years of human evolution being barefoot is actually the safest way to perform any major activites that involve running, jumping, or athletic activity.



Why do you think people from the sudan in Africa are the worlds greatest long distance runners? Because thy spend most of their lives barefoot!!! *** man get a clue!

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Ok, fair enough, but my point is, what does the rule favor? I get that wrestlers like shoes too, but in a fight, if shoes are not worn, you're telling me the impact on the style is the same across the board?? No way.

And what studies have you actually performed to prove your theory accurate? Or are you just taking a wild ***ing guess?

[fathergll]

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Ok, fair enough, but my point is, what does the rule favor? I get that wrestlers like shoes too, but in a fight, if shoes are not worn, you're telling me the impact on the style is the same across the board?? No way.

No it doesn't impact guys across the board the same way but it does impact them in different ways

Wrestler not wearing wrestling shoes has an impact just like boxers not wearing boxing shoes. Each guy has to adapt.

brazilian jiu jujitsu fighters are not allowed to wear a gi under the current rules. A gi is a weapon itself and Brazilian jiu jujitsu fighters have to adapt to not being allowed to wear one.



Its as even playing field that you are going to get while being approved by state athletic commissions(no headbutts, eye gouging..etc)


Every style has to adapt in MMA. You know going in you are going to compete against another guy under some safety rules for 5 min rounds, no shoes, no shirt and wearing 4 oz gloves. How you choose to prepare for that fight is up to you

[Clint650]

what boxers should start doing is stop talking trash about mma. Dam when they go into mma they lose everytime.


You dont see mixed martial artists talk trash about boxers striking

Who the *** is stopping the boxer from learning how to defend it? Nobody is stopping him!!!


You think a straight kick boxer or straight Mu Thai fighter knows how to stop take downs? No!!! They had to learn just like a boxer does!!


Seriously you ass hats act like Boxing is the only form of striking used in MMA it's not! There are lots of fighters in MMA that want to keep the fight standing who are not boxers. They took the time to learn take down defense so what the *** is stopping boxers from learning the same thing?


Sounds to me like you are just making excuses for boxers to be lazy.

because the guys that have talked **** basically said you stand with me im knocking you out, and for the most part they are right. but to step into the octagon with total disrespect for the ground game wont help to stop takedowns or avoid clinches. but the **** talk about mma's stand up is real talk. there is no one who can stand and **** with a boxer.

im afraid either sport wont have an elite fighter making a transition any time soon since it means a career change and we all know how hard it is for these guys to get to the top in their respected divisions. thats why we will only see boxers who can no longer make a run for the title, let alone get a fight that any media networks would even bother covering. Toney is not going to get a chance to fight anyone relevant in boxing, but Couture looks like he may make another run at the title @ light heavy. make any sense.