Surely Pacquiao is top 10/20 greatest fighters of all time

[hugh grant]

I want to know where Freddie Roach places Pac. He might be biased of course but it would be interesting to know.

[Baracka Flocka]

Pacquiao no question is an all time great!

Top 10 on my list for sure.

[NChristo]

YOuve given your opinion on where you think pac is. Are you credible? WHo is credibel. I have given you credible people who think Pac is top 5 and because it doesnt match yours list, you find and excuse to diss them.

I'm not "Dissing" them, I'll tell you again, I want to debate to see why you think Pac is top 20. Is it that hard ?.

Edit: I'm done with this thread, you obviously don't want to debate and just hide behind others quotes, no point in continuing.

[southcentralcar]

i dont rank fighters by matching them up in fantasy fights and determing the outcome.. then placing them on the atg p4p list

looking at fighters accomplishments and resume, pacquiaos is up their with the very best

like him or not, ped user or not, the guy ranks as high as top 10/20 of all time. i wouldnt be surprised if people put him in their top 5 for accomplishments n resume..

i think fighters from the past, 1930s 40s etc, get to much butt licking...

from the history forum they talk about some guys who beat a guy who beat a guy but didnt do anything after the win blah blah blah and are impressed with guys who are have records like 88-35

guys from this decade and the last decade dont get enough respect compared to guys who people have never even seen footage of lol

pacquiao is the fighter of decade, and any fighter of the decade is up their with the very best.. same with the 90s like jones jr and whitaker ( who gets a lot of respect from historians actually )

i think i get this. since *******s only know like 10 different boxers of course pac is gonna be in their top 10 all time greats

[Gorilla Dogs]

pac and may are both top 15. both can be argued top 10

[southcentralcar]

I want to know where Freddie Roach places Pac. He might be biased of course but it would be interesting to know.

all time is a long time. are you really that familiar with all the best boxers to say pac is better then them ?

[shadeyfizzle]

I rank Floyd in the Top 50. Here's why...

1. He's won real belts in 5 divisions and beat the best in every division. All of his title wins came against the champion. He didnt fight at made up weight classes for vacant belts and he didnt demand catchweights either. He just beat the best in every division he ever fought in. Pacquiao on the other hand won WBC International belts and IBO Belts. Along with belts won in catchweight bouts against people coming off KO losses.

Pacquiao's resume is extremely overrated when you look at the amount of damaged opponents he has beaten. Check all of Floyd's title fights since 1998 and you'll find maybe 2 or 3 people who had lost one of their last 6 fights prior to him fighting them. The majority of Pacquiao's big wins came against people coming off KO losses. Look it up on Boxrec. People lie but number's dont. It's clear who is the real cherrypicker of the two.


2. Floyd has dominated everyone he has fought. He beat Castillo with a torn rotator cuff and then beat him again in the rematch. He fought alot of top fighters at the peak of their career like Genaro Hernandez, Diego Corrales, Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo, Arturo Gatti, Zab Judah, Oscar De La Hoya, Juan Manuel Marquez and Shane Mosley. All of them were in the prime of their career's and he dominated all of them.

How can Pacquiao be ranked higher when he's fought worse opposition and lost three times? That just doesnt make any sense at all. Your going to say Pacquiao has fought better opposition but that's just not true. If you look on boxrec you will see that Pacquiao has beaten 13 world champions and Floyd has beaten 15. So that argument is just false.

Anyway i'm sick of debating with all these ignorant Pacquiao trolls like yourself who can't see simple logic. I see no reason to continue to try and educate people who are too dumb to understand. And there are alot of people like this on NSB so i'm done with that part of the forum. I come on here to read about boxing and that's the way it should be. Threads like this are just further evidence that NSB is full of idiots who don't know what they are talking about.

Pacquiao has won real belts in 6 weight divisions. More than floyd and tied with the alltime record with Oscar delahoya

If you were a real fan of floyd at all you would know that not all of floyd's title wins did not come against THE champion. Pacquiao holds the alltime record for beating the most REAL divisional champions with 4.

[Khalid X]

i think i get this. since *******s only know like 10 different boxers of course pac is gonna be in their top 10 all time greats

I'm not gonna lie....this was pretty funny...lol

[Khalid X]

Pacquiao has won real belts in 6 weight divisions. More than floyd and tied with the alltime record with Oscar delahoya

If you were a real fan of floyd at all you would know that not all of floyd's title wins did not come against THE champion. Pacquiao holds the alltime record for beating the most REAL divisional champions with 4.

Pac has won titles in 7 different weight classes....I'm not sure where you are getting 6 from?

[southcentralcar]

Pacquiao has won real belts in 6 weight divisions. More than floyd and tied with the alltime record with Oscar delahoya

If you were a real fan of floyd at all you would know that not all of floyd's title wins did not come against THE champion. Pacquiao holds the alltime record for beating the most REAL divisional champions with 4.

who gives a **** bout these weight divisions DD ?! for boxers who start at heavyweight its impossible to do that **** so does it mean its impossible for them to be considered better fighters then Manny?