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  • Originally posted by NChristo View Post
    Another white boxer would be Bob Fitzsimmons who holds a strong argument for #1.

    Imo Eder Jofre could be ranked in the top 15 and he is definitly up there top skill wise, will probably get a lot of shtick for saying this but I hold to it that Jofre is the best boxer I've ever seen, even if it is just his wars with Jose Medal and his close losses to Harada after a year or so lay off.
    Something about him.

    I've seen Arguello and Monzon in the top 20 as well in some peoples lists. None of them come close to Greb, Pep, Leonard or Fitzsimmons though
    I could see you saying that about Jofre. I think I heard it best when someone stated the following:

    Saying someone, skill wise, is better than are on par with Robinson is a good way to either start a heated argument or just get laughed at. When you say that person is Jofre then that statement is not so ridiculous.

    Again I'm paraphrasing an article from a credible source that I read a while back so forgive me if it's not word for word....but that was the jist of things.

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    • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post


      Are you serious? We had discussions on the phone, You were on the call when I spoke Spanish to RobTC when he was saying Pac would beat Ali at a catch-weight of 154 and he would KO SRR

      My bad. Who was it that aid I sound like De La Hoya?

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      • Originally posted by Morales_
        1. SRR
        2. Ali
        3. SRL
        4. Armstrong
        5. Langford
        6. RJJ
        7. Duran
        8. Monzon
        9. Ricardo Lopez
        10. Whitaker
        11. JCC
        12. Pacquiao
        13. Sanchez
        14. Hearns
        15. Arguello
        16. Mayweather
        17. Benitez
        18. Gomez
        19. Jofre
        20. Zarate

        I have Pacquiao at number 12.


        What a ******ed ass list.

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        • Originally posted by street bully View Post
          My bad. Who was it that aid I sound like De La Hoya?
          Maybe Mak?

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          • Imo hes not a top 20 but hes in the top 100 great warrior i just wonder sometimes how many people actually followed his career i get the feeling most of his fans didnt catch him until he beat de la hoya but whatever

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            • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post


              What a ******ed ass list.
              To a ***** like you it probably is.

              You expect him to be above SRR right?

              Bull**** hes not that good.

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              • Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                I'll just say that in my lifetime the best fighters I've seen have been:

                Ali
                Leonard
                Hagler
                Floyd
                Roy Jones
                Duran
                Sweet Pea
                Julio Cesar Chavez
                James Toney
                Aaron Pryor
                Salvador Sanchez/Azumah Nelson

                No disrespect to Manny Pacquio but its hard for me to put him ahead of the men listed above.
                Pryor? Interesting.

                I would say ATG wise, Pac ranks clearly higher than Nelson, Toney, and Pryor, And, IMO higher than Jones and Floyd. And, a case could be made higher than Salvador Sanchez and Hagler IMO.

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                • Originally posted by Morales_ View Post
                  To a ***** like you it probably is.

                  You expect him to be above SRR right?

                  Bull**** hes not that good.


                  hahahaha

                  Yea I expect "him" to be above SRR

                  "him" is that good.

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                  • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                    Pryor? Interesting.

                    I would say ATG wise, Pac ranks clearly higher than Nelson, Toney, and Pryor, And, IMO higher than Jones and Floyd. And, a case could be made higher than Salvador Sanchez and Hagler IMO.
                    All I'm saying is I have watched all these boxers fight multiple times and I can't put Manny ahead of them. In terms of accomplishments, It's kind of hard to put it all in context. For example, carlos Monzon I didn't list but he had 19 title defenses. Manny, has gone to different divisions but hasn't defended any title from 130 except once vs Clottey. Has Manny fought in that manny title fights period?

                    The point is it fair to penalize Monzon because god/allah/jehova (whoever you believe in) he could stay at 160 his whole life?

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                    • 'Claps his hands in rhythm with his words'

                      Have Pacquiao been knocked out twice? Answer the question!

                      Have Pacquiao been outboxed by Erik Morales?


                      LOL

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