Is Roy Jones Jr the Greatest Light Heavyweight ever?

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  • The Troll
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    #31
    Originally posted by SliqueJab
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    Reiterating earlier points since you seem to lack comprehension skills. Jones beat Toney on Toney's worst night. Secondly I reiterate even Montell Griffen beat that version of Toney Deux times.

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    • Truth
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      #32
      Roy Jones Jr. is one of the best pound 4 pound fighters of all time. Top 10 or top 20.

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        #33
        Originally posted by THE TRUTH
        Roy Jones Jr. is one of the best pound 4 pound fighters of all time. Top 10 or top 20.
        To be in the pound for pound list do you have to fight in a particular style. It seems maybe by coincidence that a certain style fighter gets rated higher pound for pound merely because of the way they fight and less for accomplishment.

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        • SliqueJab
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          #34
          Ha ha ha so what if Griffin owned Toney, he is not on the same breath. Griffin was a never was fighter idiot. Toney was not at his worst and not on his best either. Jones just schooled him, a one side affair that's why he was at his worst. Roy Jones did what exactly a great fighters do, he made Toney pay for his poor preparation.

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            #35
            Originally posted by SliqueJab
            Ha ha ha so what if Griffin owned Toney, he is not on the same breath. Griffin was a never was fighter idiot. Toney was not at his worst and not on his best either. Jones just schooled him, a one side affair that's why he was at his worst. Roy Jones did what exactly a great fighters do, he made Toney pay for his poor preparation.
            What are you talking about. Toney was dehydrated as f***k vs Jones. And right around the time he lost to Jones is when he had the Griffin losses and I believe a loss also to Drake Thadzi, another fighter Michalczewski beat. That was the low point in Toney's career.
            Last edited by The Troll; 07-23-2005, 12:42 PM.

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            • SliqueJab
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              #36
              Sure he might have been dehydrated trying to lose all those pound but he did not postpone it either. He created his mess and he paid for it. He went ahead thinking he could win and next thing you know Jones schooled him. I think Jones would have won it regardless with his quickness and reflexes.
              Jones did that against Tarver in the first fight and still won it.

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                #37
                Originally posted by SliqueJab
                Sure he might have been dehydrated trying to lose all those pound but he did not postpone it either. He created his mess and he paid for it. He went ahead thinking he could win and next thing you know Jones schooled him. I think Jones would have won it regardless with his quickness and reflexes.
                Jones did that against Tarver in the first fight and still won it.
                Your trying say it such a big accomplishment in Jones's career that he beat Toney at that point in his career. What I am telling you is that is not. Griffin and Thadzi also beat him at this stage of his career (both are decent fighters but not champs). Toney went into somewhat obscurity after this stage. He has only recently revitalized his career. With the very impressive wins over Jirov, and Then Holyfield. And the recent fight with Ruiz.
                Last edited by The Troll; 07-23-2005, 12:49 PM.

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                • SliqueJab
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                  #38
                  Well what the hell, Toney was undefeated coming into that fight. Most people think he's gonna whoop Roy Jones. In fact he had weight problems before , he's been walking around 200 between each fight and he still beating people. He just thrown that excuses after Roy Jones schooled him because afterall, it's a very good excuse. Toney went into obscurity because he did not get the rematch.

                  The point was Roy Jones was Ring Magazine place him on top 80 boxers and top 100 greatest punchers while Dariusz did not make the cut and will never be. The end had justified the means, Roy Jones may or may not be the best light heavyweight of all time but Dariusz will never be. Never ever be. So please idiot stop retrieving him from obscurity.

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                  • sisforshaq
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                    #39
                    During that 1997-2003 era of Daruisz being "Linear Champ" didnt Jones hold the
                    WBC Light Heavyweight Title
                    IBF Light Heavyweight Title
                    WBA Light Heavyweight Title
                    IBO Light Heavyweight Title
                    WBF Light Heavyweight Title
                    IBA Light Heavyweight Title
                    NBA Light Heavyweight Title

                    Daruisz held just the WBO title

                    I know their just "alphabet titles" but still Jones beat a lot more champions and contenders that Daruisz

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                    • Sir_Jose
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by sisforshaq
                      During that 1997-2003 era of Daruisz being "Linear Champ" didnt Jones hold the
                      WBC Light Heavyweight Title
                      IBF Light Heavyweight Title
                      WBA Light Heavyweight Title
                      IBO Light Heavyweight Title
                      WBF Light Heavyweight Title
                      IBA Light Heavyweight Title
                      NBA Light Heavyweight Title

                      Daruisz held just the WBO title

                      I know their just "alphabet titles" but still Jones beat a lot more champions and contenders that Daruisz
                      Only 4 matter WBC, IBF, WBA, WBO no one cares about belts like the IBA, IBO, NBA and WBF

                      DM never lost the IBF or WBA belts in the ring. They were taken from him for politcal reasons.

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