Doug Fischer: "A LOT LESS African-American WARRIORS today than 25 years ago"

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  • shogun1123
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    #111
    I don't know what happened to Doug or exactly what his motivation for writing a piece like this is. I use to be a big Doug Fisher fan. But every since he left Maxboxing for Ring Magazine his thought process and some of his opinions has truly baffled me at times.

    I assume by looking at him he is half black( i'm just guessing). But his reason or motivation does not matter to me, I think this piece he wrote was just plain dumb.

    Everyone on this board that complains about a fighter being safety first or slick boxer are just plain ignorant. The object of the sport is to hit and not get hit period.

    Ask yourself this! If your son wanted to be a professional boxer, What boxer would you want your son to learn from? What boxers tapes would you make him watch? Juan Diaz? How about Autro Gatti? or any other so called blood and guts warrior?

    No way would you choose a fighter that took a bunch of punishment in his career. You all would sitting down with your son to watch Floyd Mayweather Jr. Tapes.

    Go watch MMA or UFC if you want to watch people fight like amatuers and hit get in the face with punches a "C" level boxer could easily avoid without thinking.

    Where are the Black Warriors?

    ANSWER=IF YOU ARE ABLE TO CLIMB THE SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC LADDER WITHOUT HAVING TO GET INVOLVED IN BOXING YOU WILL! IN SOME COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD BOXING IS STILL THE ONLY OR EASIEST WAY FOR MEN TO CLIMB THAT LADDER!

    Black American's have more options available to them these days. Today young Black American's don't see boxing as a vehicle to escape ones dreadful economic conditions. It's easier to get to a College, Basketball Court, Football Field and a Recording Studio.

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    • Vasyl’s dad
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      #112
      Originally posted by -GDS-
      "Willingness to fight the best" has nothing to do with race. It's politics. It's basically similar to Pac-Man and many Latin Top Rank fighters not fighting certain kinds of fighters due to various reasons.




      Floyd and Roy see themselves as "businessmen". They tend to make excuses as to why they shouldn't fight this guy or that guy. Other fighters see themselves as "fighters" which is why you see fighters like Pac and others of all races continuously seek the best fights possible. So screw your politics excuse. If fighter A wants to take on fighter B bad enough, there isn't any kind of politics to stop the fight from happening.

      If these boxers wanted to be businessmen so bad, they should have joined Wall Street.

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      • SuckaPunch
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        #113
        just a reminder again, that piece is NOT an article but rather fischer's response to a fan asking SPECIFICALLY about african-american boxers.

        click on the damn source link!

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          #114
          Originally posted by Johnny Chingas

          Floyd and Roy see themselves as "businessmen". They tend to make excuses as to why they shouldn't fight this guy or that guy. Other fighters see themselves as "fighters" which is why you see fighters like Pac and others of all races continuously seek the best fights possible. So screw your politics excuse. If fighter A wants to take on fighter B bad enough, there isn't any kind of politics to stop the fight from happening.

          If these boxers wanted to be businessmen so bad, they should have joined Wall Street.
          That's ******. Every fighter who attains a certain status becomes a businessman. They'd be pretty ****** not to be. I don't know if you live in the real world but this pretty much applies to every vocation out there. You bust your butt early in order to reap the benefits and not have to do as much later.

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            #115
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            That's ******. Every fighter who attains a certain status becomes a businessman. They'd be pretty ****** not to be. I don't know if you live in the real world but this pretty much applies to every vocation out there. You bust your butt early in order to reap the benefits and not have to do as much later.
            Derek Jeter is a businessman or a baseball player?
            President ***** is a businessman or politician?
            Charles Mayo was a businessman or a doctor?
            Bernard Parks was a businessman or a police chief?
            Kobe Bryant is a businessman or a basketball player?
            The kid serving your Big Mac is a businessman or a drive through window server?
            The guy delivering your pizza is a businessman or a delivery driver?
            I'MDAZED is a businessman or phony article writing hack?

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              #116
              Originally posted by Johnny Chingas
              Derek Jeter is a businessman or a baseball player?
              President ***** is a businessman or politician?
              Charles Mayo was a businessman or a doctor?
              Bernard Parks was a businessman or a police chief?
              Kobe Bryant is a businessman or a basketball player?
              The kid serving your Big Mac is a businessman or a drive through window server?
              The guy delivering your pizza is a businessman or a delivery driver?
              I'MDAZED is a businessman or phony article writing hack?
              You really are ******. The kid serving Big Mac hasn't attained any status where he can do business. Same with your pizza delivery boy. Maybe you should read my post again. Get someone to help you comprehend. Derek Jeter and Kobe Bryant, two players in team sports, are most definitely athletes AND businessmen. In trying to be witty you continue to show me how dumb you really are.

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                #117
                Originally posted by Johnny Chingas

                Floyd and Roy see themselves as "businessmen". They tend to make excuses as to why they shouldn't fight this guy or that guy. Other fighters see themselves as "fighters" which is why you see fighters like Pac and others of all races continuously seek the best fights possible. So screw your politics excuse. If fighter A wants to take on fighter B bad enough, there isn't any kind of politics to stop the fight from happening.

                If these boxers wanted to be businessmen so bad, they should have joined Wall Street.







                Boxing is a business. It's a profession. You're obviously too ****** to understand that. And last time I checked David Diaz wasn't "the best" at 135. And Margarito damn sure isnt the best at 154. It's called business. But you need brains to understand that. Something you lack.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Johnny Chingas
                  Derek Jeter is a businessman or a baseball player?
                  President ***** is a businessman or politician?
                  Charles Mayo was a businessman or a doctor?
                  Bernard Parks was a businessman or a police chief?
                  Kobe Bryant is a businessman or a basketball player?
                  The kid serving your Big Mac is a businessman or a drive through window server?
                  The guy delivering your pizza is a businessman or a delivery driver?
                  I'MDAZED is a businessman or phony article writing hack?




                  One thing all of them have in common....they get paid. Which means they either provide a service through a profession or a business. And yeah, Mcdonalds and Pizza delivary is a business...dumbass.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    You really are ******. The kid serving Big Mac hasn't attained any status where he can do business. Same with your pizza delivery boy. Maybe you should read my post again. Get someone to help you comprehend. Derek Jeter and Kobe Bryant, two players in team sports, are most definitely athletes AND businessmen. In trying to be witty you continue to show me how dumb you really are.



                    Seriously. He's using a kid flipping burgers as an analogy for multi millionaire professional boxers lol. That says it all.

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                      #120
                      That post from Chingas was just ******ed, Wow what the hell.

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