Doug Fischer: "A LOT LESS African-American WARRIORS today than 25 years ago"

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  • SuckaPunch
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    Doug Fischer: "A LOT LESS African-American WARRIORS today than 25 years ago"

    from Dougie's Friday mailbag
    Posted Aug. 20, 2010 at 03:06am
    by Doug Fischer



    BLACK FIGHTERS AND HEART

    Originally posted by Doug Fischer
    Well, as a child of the 1970s who became a hardcore boxing fan during the 1980s, I can’t deny that there are a lot less African-American ring warriors than there were 25 years ago.

    Your email made me wonder when the last time two African-American fighters made for the fight of the year. I had to go all the way back to 1992 when Rid**** Bowe challenged Evander Holyfield. For the record, Holyfield-Tyson I was THE RING’s fight of the year for 1996, but let’s be real, that was the beatdown of the year.

    However, I should point out that John David Jackson was one half of THE RING’s fight of the year for 1994 (vs. Jorge Castro), Ivan Robinson was part of the fight of the year for 1998 (vs. Arturo Gatti), Emanuel Augustus meshed very well with Micky Ward to make the FOTY for 2001, and Diego Corrales’ first clash with Jose Luis Castillo was not only FOTY for 2005 but arguably one of the best slugfests of all time (the late Chico was half black and as a Halfrican myself I’ve gotta recognize him).

    So I can’t say that “heart” has simply left all African-American fighters. I would argue that the sport has become more Latino-dominated in the last 15 to 20 years and less African Americans are being attracted to boxing than in past decades (and that includes a lot of badasses). Also, the image of successful African-Americans has changed over the years and has become that of the glitzy/celebrity business man so unfortunately we’re getting fighters with once-in-a-lifetime talent and ability who want to play it safe as Roy Jones Jr. did and Floyd Mayweather Jr. does.

    Are we ever going to see the likes of a Joe Frazier or Matthew Saad Muhammad in the ring again? Probably not. However, I’ll go on record as say that some of the toughest fighters I’ve ever witnessed were African Americans (Evander Holyfield, James Toney, Chris Byrd, Bernard Hopkins and Mark Johnson come to mind). Yeah, I know these guys grew up in the 1970s and 1980s, but there are still young world-class African-American fighters who bring it. Paul Williams doesn’t back down from a fight and has been in two bona fide 12-round barnburners (vs. Antonio Margarito and Sergio Martinez). James Kirkland will probably return to his brutal ways in the ring once he gets his ass out of jail.

    Tim Bradley and Lamont Peterson made for a enjoyable 12-round fight and showed as much balls as skill, IMO. Who knows? If Chad Dawson fights Tavoris Cloud, maybe the hardnosed Floridian will ignite the HBO-contract fighter’s inner fire.
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  • Dick Buffman
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    #2
    Dirrell, Mayweather, Ward, Berto, DAwson...

    zzzzzzzzzzzzz....


    /thread.


    Dougie didn't say nothing we didn't finna already know.

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    • Bushbaby
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      Yup,Mosley & Bradley & Alexander & Ward & the Punisher may be the last 1's left & Mosley is on his way out to boot!!

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      • Pin Galarga
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        #4
        As the face of USA's population changes, Hispanics are now the mayority and it reflects in sports, politics etc.
        Who knows, in the next few years we should see also the 1st Hispanic president.
        At this rate, Maybe even Hugo Chavez

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        • boxaholic
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          #5
          Change the word Warriors with exciting or risk takers n I agree. I'm more upset at the lack of quantity n quality fights nowadays

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          • Eaner0919
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            Gary Russell Jr
            Tavoris Cloud
            Devon Alexander
            Teon Kennedy

            all young black fighters off the top of my head I would class as warriors

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            • tredh
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              LMAO is this dude one of the fakest so called sports writers I have ever read. This **** is a true shame.

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              • The Gambler1981
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                That is pretty weak, I don't think there are that many safty first African American fighter.

                I don't get why he is comparing Mayweather and Jones to Muhammed and Frazier. Both Floyd and Roy were basically on the Sugar Ray Leonard model, people don't get that Sugar Ray got lucky in a sence he came along in a golden generation, if Floyd or Jones had great competition (not very good) out there when they were young bucks they would likely be remembered differently.

                It is all about personality though, it is not like Mike Tyson didn't come after Sugar Ray~

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                • pistol whip
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                  What does race matter? Why cant we have just have tough fighters of all races period?

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                    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                    That is pretty weak, I don't think there are that many safty first African American fighter.

                    I don't get why he is comparing Mayweather and Jones to Muhammed and Frazier. Both Floyd and Roy were basically on the Sugar Ray Leonard model, people don't get that Sugar Ray got lucky in a sence he came along in a golden generation, if Floyd or Jones had great competition (not very good) out there when they were young bucks they would likely be remembered differently.

                    It is all about personality though, it is not like Mike Tyson didn't come after Sugar Ray~



                    mayweather has ducked the best competition of his era and so did roy jones after the james toney fight so why would they be unlucky?

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