Did Sergio Martienz, Kotelnik, Collazo really get bad decisions?

[Iceta Lives]

The Berto-Collazo fight was the only one that wasn't a highway robbery.

[BillyBoxing]

The Martinez/Williams fight was a close bout that could've went either way. However Martinez was robbed by the Pierre Benoist 119-110 score.

The Collazo/Berto fight was a close bout that could've went either way. However Collazo was robbed by the Bill Clancy 116-111 score.

The Kotelnik/Alexander was a close bout, but Kotelnik won, and was robbed by a clean 116-112 sweep by the judges.

The first two bouts could've went either way therefore the loser wasn't "robbed" technically, but one judge from each bout ruined it by sleeping through the contest making it seem like a total sham. The third was clear bias towards the undefeated hometown HBO fighter. A rematch should be in order for all three.

Unfortunately, we might only get one at the best.

Amen bra,
you called it like it is.

Honnestly those fight are close,but there is always a winner.

I thought Alexander and Berto lost.Berto and Devin were outboxed in my opinion...

Only Williams maybe won.
Williams landed more and Martinez landed harder shots.

[Dynamite Kid]

Collazo really outboxed Berto.

Kotelnik outlanded Devin,and this with cleaner punches to the head,so he get robbed plain and simple.

Martinez didn't outlanded Williams,but he really ****ed up the guy,I mean,Williams was punch drunk and sorry after the fight,the guy wasn't a winner.

If you want to beat an american in USA,you got to throw more punches,land more punches,and hurt the guy,or they will always find an excuse to give the other guy the decision.

He outlanded him, according to who, punchstats ? what are they worth?

Dont know what fight your were watching, didn't see anyone getting ouboxed.

You score fights round by round, you dont get to the end look at the guy and think" i tell you what, we will give it to this guy cause it looks as though he ***ed you up more"

[Safety]

Kotelnik got the better blows in but, I don't think he was active enough. But the thing is he made Devon look weak. Like I think he deserved more rounds.
yeah know??

Collazo ehhh he won.

As for Martinez I have it a Draw. Fight was so epic it was a slugfeast. But all in all Williams got the decision. But same thing here one of the Judges was being so biased that it was wrong. It's unfair.

[Calilloyd]

Collazo really outboxed Berto.

Kotelnik outlanded Devin,and this with cleaner punches to the head,so he get robbed plain and simple.

Martinez didn't outlanded Williams,but he really ****ed up the guy,I mean,Williams was punch drunk and sorry after the fight,the guy wasn't a winner.

If you want to beat an american in USA,you got to throw more punches,land more punches,and hurt the guy,or they will always find an excuse to give the other guy the decision.

What happened in this round?

[Iceta Lives]

What happened in this round?

Now that I look at that round again for the first time since I watched the fight Berto didn't dominate that round at all even though he caught Collazo with some good punches. He probably missed over 70% of the punches he threw and Collazo backed him up and bullied him around. Also landed a good combination at the end of the round after Berto hurt him with that body shot.

[Dynamite Kid]

What happened in this round?

This clip is reflective of how i scored the fight, Collazo throwing punches with very little on them whilst getting nailed with the cleaner/harder shots, only Berto is a busier than Kotelnik was.

[Hot Shyt]

I felt Martinez won 7-5.. If it wouldve been scored a draw, I wouldve had no problem with it, but I feel theres no way you can score 7 rounds for Paul.


But it was a close fight so he wasnt robbed in that sense, however one of the judges obviously wasnt being fair by scoring it 118-110 for Paul. This put Martinez at a disadvantage because he had to win on both the other judges cards where as Paul only had to win one outta the two. If there was an unbiased judge who knows how he wouldve scored it, so yeah Martinez was robbed of a fair decision.


edit: everything was pretty much said already..

[bojangles1987]

Martinez did not get a bad decision. The fight with Williams was very close and there were many rounds where how you scored it depended on individual interpretation of who was more effective. Williams deserved it as much as Martinez.

Collazo didn't quite get a bad decision. I thought he won the fight, but as you said many of his punches were stay busy punches whereas Berto landed harder. I had Collazo winning because he controlled the fight and I thought his punches were hurting Berto despite not looking good, but I guess I can see a way Berto might win, much as I disagree.

Kotelnik got a bad decision. He did control the fight, he completely neutralized Alexander, he landed the far majority of the hard punches, there isn't one aspect of judging a fight that Alexander was more effective than Kotelnik in. I can't understand on what basis you can score that fight for Alexander.

[Calilloyd]

Now that I look at that round again for the first time since I watched the fight Berto didn't dominate that round at all even though he caught Collazo with some good punches. He probably missed over 70% of the punches he threw and Collazo backed him up and bullied him around. Also landed a good combination at the end of the round after Berto hurt him with that body shot.

Collazo was holding on with rubbery legs. I don't see in any way how he was "bullying " Berto.