If Dana White got into the boxing Business

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  • Clegg
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    #21
    Originally posted by ИATAS206
    and how would he do that? You said he puts on great undercards but pays his fighters peanuts. In boxing that wouldn't work. No boxer is going to fight for peanuts when they can fight for hundreds of thousands of dollars with someone else.

    It's literally impossible for dana white to come to boxing and be succesful.

    The only way, is if all the big promoters suddently died at the exact same time and they all left Dana White as the sole beneficiary to these companies and all of the contracts, thus giving White all of the exciting talented fighters at the same time.

    Unless that were to happen, dana white could not succeed in boxing if he were to come for whatever crazy reason.

    Maybe he could be successful in promoting 1 or 2 guys and bring them to stardom at best, but nothing like you speak of.
    Exactly.

    The UFC built up their brand in an era without real competition. Once you are the dominant brand, the top guys come to you. But if he entered boxing, he wouldn't be able to build up his brand anywhere near as quickly.

    MMA seems more brand driven than boxing.

    If you ask people if they wanna watch the UFC card, they'll probably say yes or no. But if you say 'hey, wanna watch the Bob Arum card?' they'll probably ask who's fighting.

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    • War Dinamita
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      #22
      Originally posted by Imhotep
      and started signing alot exciting fighters exclusive to his boxing company and he called it "UFC Boxing".Would he make boxing bigger?



      I think he would cause he`s willing to match best against the best more often then HBO boxing,he loads up PPV fights with exciting under-cards to help make UFC grow and does other things to promote UFC better then boxing is being promoted.
      He tried working in boxing before and didn't do ****.

      The reason why he can be successful in MMA is because UFC is one company and all his fighters are signed to UFC. They also only have one belt for each weight class. He can get away with paying his fighters peanuts because they're the major promotional company in the US. He can staked his PPV's because his fighters are making something like 40-80K per fight without sharing the live gate or PPV sales.

      Do you think top prospects and fighters would fight on the undercard of a PPV for 40K?

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      • Imhotep
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        #23
        Originally posted by VERSATILE2K10
        That wouldn't work. It's 2 different fan bases. It would still be viewed as 2 separate organizations. Not gonna work
        Alot of UFC fans use to be boxing fans?They abandon the sport cause of the negative aspects of it.

        And also you don`t have to appeal to MMA fans only or at all.The main thing is this:IF Dana can do a better job at promoting boxing if he owned his own boxing league organization like he owns UFC he can probably make the sport bigger.I mean he did point out one things boxing promoters are doing wrong which is not putting exciting fighters on the undercards of big PPV fights.

        I pointed that out to my cousin shortly after the Tyson Lewis fight.I thought that was a good opportunity to help the sport grow by putting exciting fighters on the under-card cause it was a event where alot of people who don`t normally watch boxing watched it.


        I remember my sister and her boyfriend came over to my house to watch the Lewis/Tyson fight and they never watch boxing.

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        • Imhotep
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          #24
          Originally posted by Benavidez Mafia
          He tried working in boxing before and didn't do ****.

          The reason why he can be successful in MMA is because UFC is one company and all his fighters are signed to UFC. They also only have one belt for each weight class. He can get away with paying his fighters peanuts because they're the major promotional company in the US. He can staked his PPV's because his fighters are making something like 40-80K per fight without sharing the live gate or PPV sales.

          Do you think top prospects and fighters would fight on the undercard of a PPV for 40K?




          "He tried working in boxing before and didn't do ****."

          Did he have his own boxing League like he have in UFC?NO, big difference.


          "The reason why he can be successful in MMA is because UFC is one company and all his fighters are signed to UFC. They also only have one belt for each weight class. He can get away with paying his fighters peanuts because they're the major promotional company in the US. He can staked his PPV's because his fighters are making something like 40-80K per fight without sharing the live gate or PPV sales."


          If he were to use the same formula he uses in MMA except pay the boxers more?He made a ton money in UFC so he can afford it.


          "Do you think top prospects and fighters would fight on the undercard of a PPV for 40K"


          I think if they are not signed to big promoters and a major network they would.

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          • Imhotep
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            #25
            Originally posted by Zarco
            No. Dana White ventured into a projects that saw many starving athletes that did not have any where else to go(American wrestlers, Brazilian martial artists, etc.) and had the chance to virtually offer them what ever he wanted knowing they would take it. UFC also lives a large part under the brand "UFC", hence why the brand always comes first in the promotion before the actual names of fighters. Dana White promotes the brand well as you said, but boxing does not need to promote boxing, every one already knows what boxing is. And what boxers would Dana sign exactly? Because he cant afford the best boxers.



            All he needs is fighters that are exciting and produce knockouts.He does`nt exactly need the best boxers.Kelly Pavlik and Juan Diaz are not the best boxers but they put a**es in seats.

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            • Verstyle
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              #26
              Originally posted by Imhotep
              Alot of UFC fans use to be boxing fans?They abandon the sport cause of the negative aspects of it.

              And also you don`t have to appeal to MMA fans only or at all.The main thing is this:IF Dana can do a better job at promoting boxing if he owned his own boxing league organization like he owns UFC he can probably make the sport bigger.I mean he did point out one things boxing promoters are doing wrong which is not putting exciting fighters on the undercards of big PPV fights.

              I pointed that out to my cousin shortly after the Tyson Lewis fight.I thought that was a good opportunity to help the sport grow by putting exciting fighters on the under-card cause it was a event where alot of people who don`t normally watch boxing watched it.


              I remember my sister and her boyfriend came over to my house to watch the Lewis/Tyson fight and they never watch boxing.
              Let's see how many of those promoters that can't stand him because he hates on boxing give one of his fighters a chance at one of their fighters belts. Not gonna happen.

              Also you said he had your sister and her boyfriend come over to watch Tyson-Lewis? Well... those are 2 of the greatest heavyweights of all-time and Tyson was fighting with a lot of publicity behind him and the whole fight.

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              • Zarco
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                #27
                Originally posted by Imhotep
                All he needs is fighters that are exciting and produce knockouts.He does`nt exactly need the best boxers.Kelly Pavlik and Juan Diaz are not the best boxers but they put a**es in seats.
                But like I said, he cant afford them. Pavlik and Diaz have already made more money than the highest paid UFC stars.

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                • mgsooner
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                  #28
                  That is essentially what Top Rank and Golden Boy are doing right now, trying to become mini UFCs. How is that going to make the sport any better?

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                    #29
                    You will most likely see fighters becoming there own promoteres in the future.

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                    • Imhotep
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Zarco
                      But like I said, he cant afford them. Pavlik and Diaz have already made more money than the highest paid UFC stars.
                      He can`t afford them?Have you looked at the earning Charts for UFC?UFC does way better then boxing on Average.THE PPVs with virtually unknown fighters do better then some boxers PPV with boxers that are well known.

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