If Dana White got into the boxing Business

[Imhotep]

and how would he do that? You said he puts on great undercards but pays his fighters peanuts. In boxing that wouldn't work. No boxer is going to fight for peanuts when they can fight for hundreds of thousands of dollars with someone else.

It's literally impossible for dana white to come to boxing and be succesful.

The only way, is if all the big promoters suddently died at the exact same time and they all left Dana White as the sole beneficiary to these companies and all of the contracts, thus giving White all of the exciting talented fighters at the same time.

Unless that were to happen, dana white could not succeed in boxing if he were to come for whatever crazy reason.

Maybe he could be successful in promoting 1 or 2 guys and bring them to stardom at best, but nothing like you speak of.

There are exciting fighters who fight for peanuts cause they did`nt find that big promoter to sign him(Mosley back then for example).And plus Dana is`nt ****** he knows he wood have to loosen up his wallet more for boxers cause of stiff competition form HBO.

I`m talking in the context of simply if he signed exciting fighters regardless of what he pays them.Can he make boxing bigger if he gets alot of television time?

[ИATAS]

What type of boxing business was it?

He was involved in boxing and promoting before UFC.

My theory is if he owns alot of exciting boxers exclusively like he does in UFC with the right Matchmaking he can make boxing bigger plus you have to consider the fact that he promotes boxing very well.

UFC is one company though, so every fighter in the UFC is under dana white. Boxing isn't like that, there are tons of organizations, promotional companies, managers, etc.

Also, MMA as a sport, UFC is the biggest/most popular company. Besides the hardcore fans and a couple big names (Fedor) not many people pay much attention or know of the other MMA companies out there and only know the UFC.

Maybe in 15-50 years, MMA will be like boxing today. MMA is a young sport a lot will happen over the years it will have it's ups and downs just like boxing did. I mean look at boxing in the late 1800's and early 1900's compared to today in 2010.

[Imhotep]

UFC is one organization. Boxing has over 8 organizations. Not gonna happen.

BUT WHAT IF HE WERE TO ATTACH THE UFC BRAND TO BOXING FOR MARKETABILITY like if he were to call it "UFC Boxing".

[Zarco]

No. Dana White ventured into a projects that saw many starving athletes that did not have any where else to go(American wrestlers, Brazilian martial artists, etc.) and had the chance to virtually offer them what ever he wanted knowing they would take it. UFC also lives a large part under the brand "UFC", hence why the brand always comes first in the promotion before the actual names of fighters. Dana White promotes the brand well as you said, but boxing does not need to promote boxing, every one already knows what boxing is. And what boxers would Dana sign exactly? Because he cant afford the best boxers.

[ИATAS]

BUT WHAT IF HE WERE TO ATTACH THE UFC BRAND TO BOXING FOR MARKETABILITY like if he were to call it "UFC Boxing".

I don't see how that can work. The brand of UFC is MMA/cage fighting. That's the whole appeal of.

You could try that with boxing and play heavy metal music and have Affliction shirts and Tap Out trunks and what not and at best you end up with Kelly Pavlik.

[SkillspayBills]

Dana would have to have a ****load of coin to do that. The UFC pays it's fighter more than any other promotional MMA company and it's still peanuts compared to boxers. Dmitry Pirog made 50k fighting Danny Jacobs for a vacant MW title. I could count the amount of UFC fighters that make that much coin in one bout on both hands. It's 15 TOPS. It wouldn't be successful because the fighters need the UFC, for the most money and the most exposure. In boxing it ends up being the other way around, especially when a fighter gets big.

[RockStar45]

Dana would never get the chance to pay a $40,000 guarantee to the B-side fighter of his biggest main event of the year (like Shane Carwin got for his fight for Brock Lesnar). Totally different business models.

One of the things he does well is use the Ultimate Fighter to make a bunch of scrubs seem like world-beating superstars. Roy Nelson is pretty much the MMA equivalent of Chris Arreola, but he won the Ultimate Fighter. So he gets put as the opening match of UFC 117 against Junior Dos Santos and everyone thinks it's a competitive match even though its really not.

GSP vs. Koscheck isn't an interesting fight at all. St. Pierre already tooled him 3 years ago and will crush him again. But because they're the coaches on the Ultimate Fighter, it will probably have one of the best PPV numbers of the year.

His talent is turning uninteresting fights into big events.

[pistol whip]

I`m aware that Dana owns the contract for most of the fighters in UFC and that is why he is able to make the best fight the best.And i`m also aware that he pay`s his fighters peanuts.That`s why my theory is if he owned a boxing organization and signed alot of exciting fighters
he world make boxing bigger cause the way he promotes fights.

I think you overexagerrate the paying them Peanuts thing when all his top fighters are millionaires. He gets them sponsers and they also get bonus pay for fight of the night, Knock out of the night, or submission of the night.



Trust me all those sponsers pay a lot of money for a fighter to have their gear on when walking to the ring, and the guys who actually have signiture shirts made for them get payed really really well from that.

[Verstyle]

BUT WHAT IF HE WERE TO ATTACH THE UFC BRAND TO BOXING FOR MARKETABILITY like if he were to call it "UFC Boxing".

That wouldn't work. It's 2 different fan bases. It would still be viewed as 2 separate organizations. Not gonna work

[Imhotep]

"UFC is one company though, so every fighter in the UFC is under dana white. Boxing isn't like that, there are tons of organizations, promotional companies, managers, etc."


You are driving me nuts you know,I already know that.But think of it like this if Dana was to call it UFC boxing and promote the hell out it and get exciting fighters he might get alot of MMA fans to watch it and later bring in alot of non MMA fans .


"Also, MMA as a sport, UFC is the biggest/most popular company. Besides the hardcore fans and a couple big names (Fedor) not many people pay much attention or know of the other MMA companies out there and only know the UFC."


That`s why if Dana was to name it UFC boxing or UFC something it would get alot of UFC fans attention.And with the lighter gloves you would see more knockouts which is what people come to see.That would help make boxing bigger in my opinion assuming he promotes it as well as he does UFC.


"Maybe in 15-50 years, MMA will be like boxing today. MMA is a young sport a lot will happen over the years it will have it's ups and downs just like boxing did. I mean look at boxing in the late 1800's and early 1900's compared to today in 2010."


I`m sure it will,even Baseball had its downtime but when players started using steroids the popularity of Baseball shot back up.

Boxing can still make a comeback and i`m not saying boxers should use roids either.