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  • V.WEBB
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    #31
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    Who else besides a juicer would agree to unannounced testing then ask to know when the agents are coming? Then ask if they can stop coming at a specific time period?
    These questions won't be answered. I'm seriously still trying to figure out WHY Manny waited till AFTER Floyd beat Shane to finally "agree" to a 14 day cut, like, for real DAZED.

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    • Twako
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      #32
      Originally posted by cixthree
      Accually Floyd said before the Mosley fiight "if my numbers are better, kiss 14 days and 50/50 good bye"
      lol at *****s going by w/ this. even floyd wont respond or use this statement now would he?

      and who was he negotiating w/ when he said this? w/ the media? lmao.

      they left the table at a standstill of 14days. that's where they will start again, common sense. now if floyd changed his stance DURING the 2nd negotiations, he would've said so. but did he? and yet you *****s take what you quoted as gospel.

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        #33
        Originally posted by cixthree
        Why do people ask "why" of Floyd and not Manny?

        Why won't he just fight? Well we pretty much know the answer to that question, the answers will vary but its pretty simple.
        Answer: Floyd feels Manny is cheating, standard boxing tests cant/won't declare Pac or Floyd clean. Hence the Random blood and urine, which Manny refuses to take part in FULLY. NO TEST, NO FIGHT.

        Why after 40 fights, Floyd all of a sudden wants to clean up the sport?
        Same answer as above..................

        As for Manny........

        Why won't he just FULLY take part in testing?.....

        The difference between Manny and Floyds reaasons are simple as well, if you look at it from a simple view.
        Floyds request is a request to fight, Mannys seem like an excuse not to test. They both want the fight/pay day. They both want to prove they are the best of our era.............

        Shane took part in the testing, the same Shane that
        1. Murdered Margs
        2. That people dared him to face.
        3. The same Shane he's been accused of ducking and was "scared of"
        If Shane had refused to test and Floyd didn't fight him, the same people who hold Floyd to the higher standard would be saying he's ducking Shane. But Shane took part in the test, and we witnessed the results.

        Shane is OLD, well Shane was OLD when u dared Floyd to face him.
        Shane is past his Prime, if they'd fought 3 to 4 years ago, Shane would've murdered Floyd. I doubt it, Shane is Shane. No adjustments, Floyd is constant adjustments. We all saw that as the fight went on, it got easier and easier for Floyd.

        So in a nutshell, if Manny would have taken part in FULL testing from jump, the fight would have been made.

        Finale why......

        Why doesnt Manny wanna know if the guy he's fighting isnt dirty?

        Perhaps because Floyd is questionable.

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        • ALG United
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          #34
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Who else besides a juicer would agree to unannounced testing then ask to know when the agents are coming? Then ask if they can stop coming at a specific time period?
          What are you talking about man?!!! As what was posted with the video above, Manny agreed to random blood test upto 14days before the fight, meaning the USADA can take blood from him whenever they want and how often the USADA want, there will be no restrictions until 14 days prior to the match. And to top that, there was an article that mentioned that Manny is willing to give more blood after the 14days, IF the commission is unsatisfied and needed more blood test done. Manny is willing to adhere to the rules that the commission is giving just as long that it's the commission who is requesting for them additional tests...

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          • IMDAZED
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            #35
            Originally posted by ALG United
            What are you talking about man?!!! As what was posted with the video above, Manny agreed to random blood test upto 14days before the fight, meaning the USADA can take blood from him whenever they want and how often the USADA want, there will be no restrictions until 14 days prior to the match. And to top that, there was an article that mentioned that Manny is willing to give more blood after the 14days, IF the commission is unsatisfied and needed more blood test done. Manny is willing to adhere to the rules that the commission is giving just as long that it's the commission who is requesting for them additional tests...
            Why does need Manny need 14 days?

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            • Deep Blue 1997
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              #36
              Originally posted by cixthree
              Why do people ask "why" of Floyd and not Manny?

              Why won't he just fight? Well we pretty much know the answer to that question, the answers will vary but its pretty simple.
              Answer: Floyd feels Manny is cheating, standard boxing tests cant/won't declare Pac or Floyd clean. Hence the Random blood and urine, which Manny refuses to take part in FULLY. NO TEST, NO FIGHT.

              Why after 40 fights, Floyd all of a sudden wants to clean up the sport?
              Same answer as above..................

              As for Manny........

              Why won't he just FULLY take part in testing?.....

              The difference between Manny and Floyds reaasons are simple as well, if you look at it from a simple view.
              Floyds request is a request to fight, Mannys seem like an excuse not to test. They both want the fight/pay day. They both want to prove they are the best of our era.............

              Shane took part in the testing, the same Shane that
              1. Murdered Margs
              2. That people dared him to face.
              3. The same Shane he's been accused of ducking and was "scared of"
              If Shane had refused to test and Floyd didn't fight him, the same people who hold Floyd to the higher standard would be saying he's ducking Shane. But Shane took part in the test, and we witnessed the results.

              Shane is OLD, well Shane was OLD when u dared Floyd to face him.
              Shane is past his Prime, if they'd fought 3 to 4 years ago, Shane would've murdered Floyd. I doubt it, Shane is Shane. No adjustments, Floyd is constant adjustments. We all saw that as the fight went on, it got easier and easier for Floyd.

              So in a nutshell, if Manny would have taken part in FULL testing from jump, the fight would have been made.

              Finale why......

              Why doesnt Manny wanna know if the guy he's fighting isnt dirty?
              you must be an idiot..

              maybe because Manny "hero of asia" Pacquiao can do no wrong?

              come on man, get with the times

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              • ALG United
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                #37
                Originally posted by V-3
                These questions won't be answered. I'm seriously still trying to figure out WHY Manny waited till AFTER Floyd beat Shane to finally "agree" to a 14 day cut, like, for real DAZED.
                Maybe because he was insulted at first, but he really wanted to fight floyd that he finally agreed to the testing. And if floyd really wants to fight manny but needed a vacation with the family, he should have just renegotiated a deal and then schedule the fight for next year.. That way he will be able to preserve manny and not risk manny losing to another opponent... What is the use now of staging the superfight in the future if his opponent happens to lose in his next fight... Not a SMART move from floyd!!!!

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                • IMDAZED
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by ALG United
                  Maybe because he was insulted at first, but he really wanted to fight floyd that he finally agreed to the testing. And if floyd really wants to fight manny but needed a vacation with the family, he should have just renegotiated a deal and then schedule the fight for next year.. That way he will be able to preserve manny and not risk manny losing to another opponent... What is the use now of staging the superfight in the future if his opponent happens to lose in his next fight... Not a SMART move from floyd!!!!
                  Let me ask again: Why does Manny need 14 days?

                  I know...I know. It's tough

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                  • ALG United
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Why does need Manny need 14 days?
                    Think of it this way man, it's not really a question of manny needing those remaining 14days, it is really a question of safety to the boxers.. There was an article that mentioned why did the USADA stop taking blood 18 days prior to the floyd-shane match, because of the risk that the test may cause hematoma on the boxers arms and that usually take a few days to recover from, and that will give problems to them while on training. And do you think the USADA people will do anything differently for the manny-floyd fight, they will not put the fight in jeopardy by taking unnecessary risks....

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                    • southcentralcar
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by GdoubleOD
                      you must be an idiot..

                      maybe because Manny "hero of asia" Pacquiao can do no wrong?

                      come on man, get with the times
                      Im sure there are already sects and cults of pacquiao in the phillipines. we are witnessing birth of a new religion and im sure theres not 1 bad article or tv report on pacquiao in the phillipines

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