Why ask why of Floyd, never of Manny?

[tredh]

Simple question. Do you agree that boxers get tested on the day of the fight?

I agree that it should always be a option if for any reason somebody felt a test needed to be taken.

[cixthree]

Why after 40 fights does Floyd suddenly want to clean up the sport??The answer is he really doesn't,it's just his excuse to try to tarnish Pacman's accomplishments!!"After all.How can this little guy travel through all these weight classes & blow out Oscar & Hatton who gave Floyd the fight of his life",yeah if I were outperformed & bitter,I might cry foul as well!!

that argument is in the trash, I'll tell u why.... Manny accepts, what happens? Manny refuses, what happens? So is it Floyds fault Manny refusing has the public questioning if he's clean?

[tredh]

Why after 40 fights does Floyd suddenly want to clean up the sport??The answer is he really doesn't,it's just his excuse to try to tarnish Pacman's accomplishments!!"After all.How can this little guy travel through all these weight classes & blow out Oscar & Hatton who gave Floyd the fight of his life",yeah if I were outperformed & bitter,I might cry foul as well!!

Come on man with the bold there is no reason to post bull**** to get your point accross. Did Manny look better against those 2 YES. But to say PBF vs. De la Hoya and Hatton were the fights of PBF's life is bull****. Hatton won 1 round at most and the most you really give De la Hoya was 4 rounds at best.

[cixthree]

From what i gathered, manny already accepted the 14days cut-off with arum adding that, "if after 14days and the commission waranted additional testing, manny is willing to go through it again"...

After Manny walked away from 14 days and 50/50 the first time, Floyd has stated that the deal was off the table. Since then he has out sold Pac/Cotto and doubled Pac/Clottey.
Pac has never said he accepts 14 days, if so show me the link where its not Arum but Pac saying it.

[fcastro1]

Why do people ask "why" of Floyd and not Manny? Why won't he just fight? Well we pretty much know the answer to that question, the answers will vary but its pretty simple. Answer: Floyd feels Manny is cheating, standardboxing tests cant/won't declare Pac or Floyd clean. Hence the Random blood and urine, which Manny refuses to take part in FULLY. NO TEST, NO FIGHT. Why after 40 fights, Floyd all of a sudden wants to clean up the sport? Same answer as above.................. As for Manny........ Why won't he just FULLY take part in testing?..... The difference between Manny and Floyds reaasons are simple as well, if you look at it from a simple view. Floyds request is a request to fight, Mannys seem like an excuse not to test. They both want the fight/pay day. They both want to prove they are the best of our era............. Shane took part in the testing, the same Shane that 1. Murdered Margs 2. That people dared him to face. 3. The same Shane he's been accused of ducking and was "scared of" If Shane had refused to test and Floyd didn't fight him, the same people who hold Floyd to the higher standard would be saying he's ducking Shane. But Shane took part in the test, and we witnessed the results. Shane is OLD, well Shane was OLD when u dared Floyd to face him. Shane is past his Prime, if they'd fought 3 to 4 years ago, Shane would've murdered Floyd. I doubt it, Shane is Shane. No adjustments, Floyd is constant adjustments. We all saw that as the fight went on, it got easier and easier for Floyd. So in a nutshell, if Manny would have taken part in FULL testing from jump, the fight would have been made. Finale why...... Why doesnt Manny wanna know if the guy he's fighting isnt dirty?

didn't pac just agree to the 14 days that floyd was happy with. Then stfu. All this was an excuse, if it wasn't tests it would be something else. Stop acting like you and floyd are in some type of higher morale ground. This had nothing to do with cleaning up the sport only floyd nuthuggers would believe that. Once pac agreed to the tests where is floyd now. On vacation.

[fcastro1]

After Manny walked away from 14 days and 50/50 the first time, Floyd has stated that the deal was off the table. Since then he has out sold Pac/Cotto and doubled Pac/Clottey.
Pac has never said he accepts 14 days, if so show me the link where its not Arum but Pac saying it.

[Bushbaby]

Come on man with the bold there is no reason to post bull**** to get your point accross. Did Manny look better against those 2 YES. But to say PBF vs. De la Hoya and Hatton were the fights of PBF's life is bull****. Hatton won 1 round at most and the most you really give De la Hoya was 4 rounds at best.

To each his own,yes Hatton was loosing,but he was in that fight,it wasn't no 1 sided fight,Floyd did look uncomfortable in spots,don't act like Hatton didn't put up a fight for 11 rounds!!

I think Oscar won the fight & I don't care what U say,Floyd countered better But Oscar pressed the damn fight & was the busier of the 2,it was a split decision right??I didn't mean fight of his life literally,But Manny sure did beat them a whole lot easier now didn't he??

[tredh]

To each his own,yes Hatton was loosing,but he was in that fight,it wasn't no 1 sided fight,Floyd did look uncomfortable in spots,don't act like Hatton didn't put up a fight for 11 rounds!!

I think Oscar won the fight & I don't care what U say,Floyd countered better But Oscar pressed the damn fight & was the busier of the 2,it was a split decision right??I didn't mean fight of his life literally,But Manny sure did beat them a whole lot easier now didn't he??

How was Hatton in the fight? The rounds were not close or hard to score. Please explain?

As for PBF vs. De la Hoya what do you use for scoring criteria the rules of boxing or your own set of rules? From what I know boxing is scored on
1. Clean effective punching
2. Defense
3. Ring generalship
4. Effective agression

So tell me what De la Hoya did better than PBF for 12 rounds based on the rules of boxing. This should be good.

As for the bold the judges in Lennox Lewis vs. Holyfield 1 scored that fight a draw. So you saying that to say what???

[IMDAZED]

We all know the Nevada testing protocol isn't perfect, though most of us (including many fighers) likely came to that conclusion just recently (recently meaning the past 1-2 years) since no one was vigorously advocating stricter testing protocol on these boards or anywhere else prior to this time. A couple of roided boxers have been found out - Vargas, Shane, Toney, so we knew something was amiss and all, but only now is it a major talking point, mainly due to the Mayweathers straightup accusing Pacquiao of roid usage with no evidence whatsoever, not one shred

Now a lot of people are wanting better testing and I'm all for that

However, Manny has never failed a test, and the Mayweathers completely tarnished (or attempted to tarnish) and besmirched his name and character in the press during negotiations for the fight. Do you see how that can first of all sour things between the camps, and make people more stubborn?

Secondly, Manny has agreed to do 14 days and an immediate postfight blood test as well as random urine analysis, which, considering he doesn't even have to accede to this ****, is perfectly acceptable IMO (not of least of all because there's no steroid cycle one can do in the space of 2 weeks that would be advantageous to one in a fight with Floyd where he's gonna be tested right after in the damn locker room)

1 minute Floyd said 14 was OK, when Manny compromises his stance and accepts it's no longer 14 days, it's zero. Pretty plain to see that Floyd just doesn't want to fight

Who else besides a juicer would agree to unannounced testing then ask to know when the agents are coming? Then ask if they can stop coming at a specific time period?

[jaestix1]

To each his own,yes Hatton was loosing,but he was in that fight,it wasn't no 1 sided fight,Floyd did look uncomfortable in spots,don't act like Hatton didn't put up a fight for 11 rounds!!

I think Oscar won the fight & I don't care what U say,Floyd countered better But Oscar pressed the damn fight & was the busier of the 2,it was a split decision right??I didn't mean fight of his life literally,But Manny sure did beat them a whole lot easier now didn't he??

wtf???????