Why ask why of Floyd, never of Manny?

**priure_sion_08** · 08-06-2010, 06:12 AM

Originally posted by cixthree

Why do people ask "why" of Floyd and not Manny?

Why won't he just fight? Well we pretty much know the answer to that question, the answers will vary but its pretty simple.
Answer: Floyd feels Manny is cheating, standard boxing tests cant/won't declare Pac or Floyd clean. Hence the Random blood and urine, which Manny refuses to take part in FULLY. NO TEST, NO FIGHT.

Why after 40 fights, Floyd all of a sudden wants to clean up the sport?
Same answer as above..................

As for Manny........

Why won't he just FULLY take part in testing?.....

The difference between Manny and Floyds reaasons are simple as well, if you look at it from a simple view.
Floyds request is a request to fight, Mannys seem like an excuse not to test. They both want the fight/pay day. They both want to prove they are the best of our era.............

Shane took part in the testing, the same Shane that
1. Murdered Margs
2. That people dared him to face.
3. The same Shane he's been accused of ducking and was "scared of"
If Shane had refused to test and Floyd didn't fight him, the same people who hold Floyd to the higher standard would be saying he's ducking Shane. But Shane took part in the test, and we witnessed the results.

Shane is OLD, well Shane was OLD when u dared Floyd to face him.
Shane is past his Prime, if they'd fought 3 to 4 years ago, Shane would've murdered Floyd. I doubt it, Shane is Shane. No adjustments, Floyd is constant adjustments. We all saw that as the fight went on, it got easier and easier for Floyd.

So in a nutshell, if Manny would have taken part in FULL testing from jump, the fight would have been made.

Finale why......

Why doesnt Manny wanna know if the guy he's fighting isnt dirty?

dear *****, isnt it manny said before that he will do any blood testing if the commission ask for it! it was for the record! and floyd is not the commission he is just a boxer. mosley agreed coz he really wants the fight he gave up his pride. but pac is the P4P so why should he follow floyds demand? and the source is? floyd sr? get a life boy! get a life! we are like circus here.

**Kilrain** · 08-06-2010, 06:16 AM

We all know the Nevada testing protocol isn't perfect, though most of us (including many fighers) likely came to that conclusion just recently (recently meaning the past 1-2 years) since no one was vigorously advocating stricter testing protocol on these boards or anywhere else prior to this time. A couple of roided boxers have been found out - Vargas, Shane, Toney, so we knew something was amiss and all, but only now is it a major talking point, mainly due to the Mayweathers straightup accusing Pacquiao of roid usage with no evidence whatsoever, not one shred

Now a lot of people are wanting better testing and I'm all for that

However, Manny has never failed a test, and the Mayweathers completely tarnished (or attempted to tarnish) and besmirched his name and character in the press during negotiations for the fight. Do you see how that can first of all sour things between the camps, and make people more stubborn?

Secondly, Manny has agreed to do 14 days and an immediate postfight blood test as well as random urine analysis, which, considering he doesn't even have to accede to this ****, is perfectly acceptable IMO (not of least of all because there's no steroid cycle one can do in the space of 2 weeks that would be advantageous to one in a fight with Floyd where he's gonna be tested right after in the damn locker room)

1 minute Floyd said 14 was OK, when Manny compromises his stance and accepts it's no longer 14 days, it's zero. Pretty plain to see that Floyd just doesn't want to fight

**priure_sion_08** · 08-06-2010, 06:22 AM

all of a sudden floyd ask for testing because floyd sr said pac is on roids!wow! i will believe if the source is someone who is neutral and credible. but come on! FLOYD sr? and how about the A-side METH by roger? floyd should also ask for A-Side Meth testing before the FIGHT! see? the are just creating unbelievable things and this *****s believing it like a gospel!

**Ryannn** · 08-06-2010, 06:32 AM

floyd doesn't want the fight. Said it himself. I can't see how that's manny's fault

**Ryannn** · 08-06-2010, 06:37 AM

also, the test are under floyd's terms, being done by a body of his choosing. Manny can say no to the additional test, but he says ok as long as it won't affect his performace. Now, the point youare trying to make is of no value cause the reason why this fight is not happening cause floyd can't find his balls.

**cixthree** · 08-06-2010, 06:47 AM

Originally posted by Kilrain

We all know the Nevada testing protocol isn't perfect, though most of us (including many fighers) likely came to that conclusion just recently (recently meaning the past 1-2 years) since no one was vigorously advocating stricter testing protocol on these boards or anywhere else prior to this time. A couple of roided boxers have been found out - Vargas, Shane, Toney, so we knew something was amiss and all, but only now is it a major talking point, mainly due to the Mayweathers straightup accusing Pacquiao of roid usage with no evidence whatsoever, not one shred

Now a lot of people are wanting better testing and I'm all for that

However, Manny has never failed a test, and the Mayweathers completely tarnished (or attempted to tarnish) and besmirched his name and character in the press during negotiations for the fight. Do you see how that can first of all sour things between the camps, and make people more stubborn?

Secondly, Manny has agreed to do 14 days and an immediate postfight blood test as well as random urine analysis, which, considering he doesn't even have to accede to this ****, is perfectly acceptable IMO (not of least of all because there's no steroid cycle one can do in the space of 2 weeks that would be advantageous to one in a fight with Floyd where he's gonna be tested right after in the damn locker room)

1 minute Floyd said 14 was OK, when Manny compromises his stance and accepts it's no longer 14 days, it's zero. Pretty plain to see that Floyd just doesn't want to fight

Accually Floyd said before the Mosley fiight "if my numbers are better, kiss 14 days and 50/50 good bye"

And basically what ur saying is, if a fighter has never been caught dirty he shouldn't be tested?

For the record, I never thought Manny was using. Not even when Sr spoke on it. Its when Manny refused that my radar went up. Random has no cut offs, EPO is out of ur system in 2/3 days, HGH is even harder to detect and its gone in that same ammount of time.

I'm sure u already know that guys don't fight on roids, they use it in training. Its gone during the bout. So post testing is useless. And how would u enforce a post test? Why would u need a post test? The fight is over. If Manny tests dirty after the fight then what? If he won, he has his money, he's retiring anyway.
The test is not to "catch you" its to hinder or prevent you from cheating.

**qwerty07** · 08-06-2010, 06:49 AM

If standard testing procedures don't work, then why not go to the root of the problem: NSAC. If Manny is on PEDs and getting away with it time and time again, so can every other fighter out there. If Floyd wants the sport to be on a level playing field, challenge NSAC, not Manny. Yet he doesn't, and has never asked for more testing from his opponents.

Conclusion: Floyd is a vagina who's afraid of losing.

**cixthree** · 08-06-2010, 06:51 AM

Originally posted by Ryannn

also, the test are under floyd's terms, being done by a body of his choosing. Manny can say no to the additional test, but he says ok as long as it won't affect his performace. Now, the point youare trying to make is of no value cause the reason why this fight is not happening cause floyd can't find his balls.

Ok dude, I don't know where u get ur info from but USADA ain't Floyds agency. And as far as Manny being affected by testing, Floyds doing the same tests. So that argument is out the window.

Like I said before, the message is a good one, people just HATE the messanger. Its pretty clear

**carts** · 08-06-2010, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by cixthree

Ok dude, I don't know where u get ur info from but USADA ain't Floyds agency. And as far as Manny being affected by testing, Floyds doing the same tests. So that argument is out the window.

Like I said before, the message is a good one, people just HATE the messanger. Its pretty clear

do you really know what is OSDT?

Why ask why of Floyd, never of Manny?