Comments Thread For: Vitali Klitschko Says Haye, Adamek, Valuev Running Away

[Boxing Scene]

but it just doesnt seem right to have 2 dudes knocking everybody off, i mean who da hell can beat those guys...? everybody else gonna have to wait til they retire i guess

Well, Wlad was beatable until he improved with Steward and learned how to pace himself. The old Wlad threw everything in the book and went for the quick knockout. The new Wlad softens up the target more before he takes it out.

Vitali, well, he isn't beatable. Only age will beat him but he'll retire before he loses. No one has what Lennox Lewis once had which is movement, power and a great jab. Only Wlad has that now.

[Lena]

Maybe we wont see Haye in the ring again:

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[ChopperRead]

The Klitschkos are making like 40 million and offering their opponents 1.5 million to fight and they wonder why they keep getting turned down. Who is gonna want to get smacked around for a million dollars when your opponent is making 40 times what you are making. I know people are going to say it's a million dollars man but these guys are already making close to a million anyways for fighting way lesser opposition.

They need to start offering up a little more cash for their fights and I'm sure they will get some guys to fight them. If I can make 600K fighting a mediocre heavyweight then why would I only accept 400K more to fight a giant that I have little chance to beat anyways? I realize that Valuev is taller than either of the Klits but he has litte chance to beat them skill wise and he knows that.

40 million? Nah. They average between 9-12 million Euros per fight. Someone threw that huge number out there after one of Vitali's fights, but it was incorrect.

I guess Sam Peter has no problems dealing with the Klitschkos: he's signed to fight them three times now!

[ChopperRead]

Well, Wlad was beatable until he improved with Steward and learned how to pace himself. The old Wlad threw everything in the book and went for the quick knockout. The new Wlad softens up the target more before he takes it out.

Vitali, well, he isn't beatable. Only age will beat him but he'll retire before he loses. No one has what Lennox Lewis once had which is movement, power and a great jab. Only Wlad has that now.

I think Vitali's movement depends on who he's fighting. His movement against Arreola surprised a lot of people, including the HBO team. Larry Merchant came out and said he didn't think Vitali could move like that. Vitali trained for the bull rushing at him and used lateral movement to force Arreola to constantly have to reset his offence. And while he was re-setting, Vitali hammered him.

In contrast, Sosnowski's very good movement against Vitali allowed him to stay in the fight as long as he did, but Sos was also in tremendous condition. Vitali chose to stay more stationary, wear him down with the jab and then go for the kill. It took awhile to find the range for the jab because Sos was moving so well. But as soon as Sos slowed a bit, Vitali lowered the boom.

It's great watching VK because of how he works a gameplan through a fight. He's never less than interesting.

[joe strong]

i dont listen to anything vitali says anymore...hes a politician in the waiting & they are all crooked...hes no better than don king or golden boy...promoters are all the same.a good promoter is frank warren or alain tremblay(canadian) they put on good domestic cards & try & bring good fights together...the klits do put on decent cards but many opponents just are not stepping to the plate...if vitali wants these fights he must make an offer they cant refuse...give valuev 3 million if you stand to make 20 million with tv $$$$....fight briggs in the states or adamek in jersey & hbo or showtime might be interested.quit bitching & show your opponents some real money....tyson gave peter mcneeley $750000 so valuev is definately worth 3 million as a 2 time champ...imo

[WladIsTheChamp]

i dont listen to anything vitali says anymore...hes a politician in the waiting & they are all crooked...hes no better than don king or golden boy...promoters are all the same.a good promoter is frank warren or alain tremblay(canadian) they put on good domestic cards & try & bring good fights together...the klits do put on decent cards but many opponents just are not stepping to the plate...if vitali wants these fights he must make an offer they cant refuse...give valuev 3 million if you stand to make 20 million with tv $$$$....fight briggs in the states or adamek in jersey & hbo or showtime might be interested.quit bitching & show your opponents some real money....tyson gave peter mcneeley $750000 so valuev is definately worth 3 million as a 2 time champ...imo

Bull****, your post doesn't make sense. Tyson gave McNeely $750,000 but he earned almost $20 million for that fight, you think that was fair? Vitaly is not earning $20 million, he is getting about $10-$12 for this fight, so he is actually giving a much larger % of the purse to his opponent then the example you brought up.

$1.5 is very reasonable, that is the highest payday of Valuev's career. What don't you understand about that? It's simple economics, Valuev's whole career has proved that he can't earn more than $1.5 million, why should Vitaly pay him a cent more? Vitaly can go fight anyone and still earn his $10 mil, the opponent doesn't matter, just Klitschko vs "(Put name here)" matters. Every fighter sees them as a golden ticket to retirement but the Klitschkos are taking all of the financial risks, not their opponent, it's their company that is putting up the venue, the TV deals, etc.

Same thing with Povetkin, the guy hasn't even earned $400K a fight yet and he is calling a 25%, $2.5 million deal a "slave contract"? I would like to be a slave in that case, where can I sign up?

[NECK SNAPPER]

the young fighters are going to wait out the klichko rein.
then try to establish there own it sucks for the fans but makes sense
to a 25yrs old now. boxing is a game of making the right choices.

[Pirao]

the young fighters are going to wait out the klichko rein.
then try to establish there own it sucks for the fans but makes sense
to a 25yrs old now. boxing is a game of making the right choices.

Neither Haye, nor Povetkin, nor Valuev are 25 years old.

[Scrubber]

scrubber

haye is boxing biggest coward and a fraud. Shame on haye and shame on the brits for backing this cowering lump of yellow cowardice.

[Boxing Scene]

Maybe we wont see Haye in the ring again:

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sorry, I cant post pictures yet

yeah, and we don't need that here. Thanks, I opened that one up at work.