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  • southcentralcar
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    #81
    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
    Noone?


    Were you around for Tarver I?

    Did you see Roy - Tarver I?

    Did you see what Roy looked like in Tarver I?


    He was ass tired by round 4.


    Certainly... people were talking about it.
    yea ive seen the fight. as i know roy wanted the rematch to show that he's still as good as he always was and beat tarver more convincingly. **** happens it was like he had one bad fight but it doesnt mean thats it youre way past your prime.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #82
      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
      Not sure why you would assume that.

      And goodluck countering someone who is a better counterpuncher than you... who is faster and more powerful.
      Thats where we differ. If all things are equal I'm not sure roy is so much more powerful than floyd. I said in the beginning I think FMJ power is underrated significantly.
      Check the message I sent you.

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      • IMDAZED
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        #83
        Originally posted by southcentralcar
        i doubt theres anyone like floyd, man. he makes his opponents look worse than usually and he's never lost a pro bout. i like toney too and watched like 90% of his pro fights but its hard to compare him to mayweather cuz theres never been a fighter who actually could outbox him
        That's funny because Toney did what he did against far better opposition.

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        • IMDAZED
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          #84
          Originally posted by yesir
          trust me, i have watched toneys fights. but as said, floyd is the better fighter with more tools imo
          What extra tools did Floyd have? And what made him better since he has a worse resume?

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          • AKATheMack
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            #85
            Originally posted by southcentralcar
            I was replying to the person who said that may has lost once meanwhile roy has never lost. of course we can ignore the dq vs griffith but you cant say jones jr. never lost. in the tarver fight he was a bit past his prime but as i said no one was talking about it before the fight only after he got knocked out
            Actually everybody was talking about it. That was the whole reason for Jones-Tarver 2 because Roy looked like ass in the first fight.

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            • THE REED
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              #86
              Originally posted by southcentralcar
              yea ive seen the fight. as i know roy wanted the rematch to show that he's still as good as he always was and beat tarver more convincingly. **** happens it was like he had one bad fight but it doesnt mean thats it youre way past your prime.
              LOL.. Bro.


              He was 35 years old.. entering his 51st professional fight... and had just dropped down 2 weight classes in weight.

              In no way shape or form was he a prime athlete for that fight.

              Not even close.


              That was way more than a "bad fight".

              Roy looked as drained as you could look.

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              • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                #87
                Have you guys ever seen how insanely fast and quick and explosive Floyd was at his best weight?


                People on this site have bearely seen Floyd at 130. I never seen anything that fast at 130 Pounds in my life.

                All the RJ easily **** needs to stop. A P4P Mayweather would be the oughest fight of Roys career and vice versa. Its a crazy match up and its hard to predict becuse Prime for Prime they were bth untouchable. Roy was bareky touched and Floyd was barely touched.

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                • southcentralcar
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by AKATheMack
                  Actually everybody was talking about it. That was the whole reason for Jones-Tarver 2 because Roy looked like ass in the first fight.
                  man dont tell me that crap. whos everybody ? experts and fans all had roy jones jr as a strong favouite and gave almost no chance for tarver. in the rematch again the experts thought it wont be competetive cuz jones will have changed his tactics and know how to deal with tarver. dont tell me it wasnt a ****in shock when tarver knocked jones out

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                  • THE REED
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn
                    Thats where we differ. If all things are equal I'm not sure roy is so much more powerful than floyd. I said in the beginning I think FMJ power is underrated significantly.
                    Check the message I sent you.
                    Roy was more powerful than all the SMW and LHW he faced.

                    Look at Virgil Hill... guy was huge, Legit Cruiserweight champion.

                    Roy broke his rib with one punch and ended the fight.

                    We're talking about a guy naturally MUCH bigger than ROy.

                    On a P4P basis, Roy is definingly more powerful.

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                    • victorythagr8
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                      #90
                      LMAO at Floyd having more tools than Lights Out toney and having better defense than Toney.

                      You do know James toney actually knows how to shoulder roll a southpaw something floyd never figured out yet.

                      And add that James Toney has power and is far better offensive fighter than floyd.



                      Floyd cant see Roy Jones P4P because Jones was clearly far more athletic than Floyd has ever been.

                      Floyd will miss non stop because Roy has faster reflex, leg speed, and hand speed than floyd p4p wise. And add that Roy has 1 punch knock out power and is actually more untouchable than floyd since roy avoids getting hit and fighter actually hit air non stop unlike floyd defense when all they hit is his shoulder, and arms which would be hurting by roy power.

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