ELLERBE: "Calling to ask what Floyd wants is NOT a negotiation..."

[IMDAZED]

So you think that Margarito has fallen so far that he is a tuneup? He poses no threat, no risk and no physical or stylistic problems for Manny?

I think I've been pretty clear in saying that. Just like I was pretty clear saying Clottey posed no threat, no risk and no physical or stylistic problems for Manny. They just so happen to be on Top Rank.

[Vito Corleone]

Let's see...Margarito is by far the biggest fighter Manny has ever faced, he is 5 inches taller at least and will outweigh Manny by about 15-20 pounds on fight night. He is a iron chinned pressure fighter with unlimited stamina.....

Who was last seen getting pummeled by Shane Mosley in his last meaningful bout.

[Doctor_Tenma]

What is not considered a tune up then? cause i can throw many names at you that can either be considered, still a prospect, or look like **** in their last fight and have less chance than guys like Cotto, Marg who have been to the top but who's recent performance (Cotto/Foreman aside) did not go as planned.

What you gonna say, that a Berto win does more for Manny, Berto has never fought anyone on that level, barely got by Collazo, looked like **** against Quintana.

Williams, looked like **** against Kermit Cintron, infact was outboxed! from range, also, lets not level guys at Manny that Floyd himself would not dream of fighting.

I dont see Mayweather taking on guys that have a realistic chance of beating irrespective of style match up. You know i, like you, called it that Mosley was done, that Floyd would dominate him.

We're hardcore Boxing fans here, we have to be real here. Yeah man, most of the times (When it doesn't involve Floyd) we have a lot of the same views, I knew Mayweather was gonna dominate Mosley. But a lot of people still viewed that as a competitive bout, so I couldn't argue. I also knew Pacquiao was going to dominate Cotto (not in the fashion that he did) but nonetheless I saw that coming, even called Pacquiao-Clottey a mismatch based on style, but never did I discredit the win because Clottey is a solid opponent for most WWs.

Also, I don't even have to say this because this you should already know, but Margarito-style fighters don't last long, his chin is most likely cracked and on top of that Pacquiao feeds off of that style. I hope your not trying to make this out to be competitive.

[RimmyDelicious]

You mean Margaret? The guy that Floyd's last victim absolutely demolished?

The guy Floyd's last victim left a soggy mess against the ropes? That guy?

Yes, that guy. The guy who was beaten by Floyd's last victim, Mosley. Mosley, who was the victim of Pacqauio's 2nd to last conquest, Cotto. Cotto, the victim of Pacquaio's next opponent, Margarito.

We can go in circles with this all day. And do you think you are clever or witty calling Margarito "Margaret"? I remember when boys used to call other boys by women's names...when I was in kindergarten. Grow up, Peter Pan.

[RimmyDelicious]

I think I've been pretty clear in saying that. Just like I was pretty clear saying Clottey posed no threat, no risk and no physical or stylistic problems for Manny. They just so happen to be on Top Rank.

Fair enough. Just to be clear though, who out there does pose a threat to Manny and who would not be considered a tuneup?

[IMDAZED]

Fair enough. Just to be clear though, who out there does pose a threat to Manny and who would not be considered a tuneup?

Sergio Martinez. Paul Williams.

[The Big Dunn]

Fair enough. Just to be clear though, who out there does pose a threat to Manny and who would not be considered a tuneup?

Any non top rank fighter he fights unless of course its a complete bum.

[Dynamite Kid]

Soooo, when exactly did Shane become shot? Immediately after he knocked Margaret senseless?

If Mosley that beat Marg would of fought Cotto the result would of been more comfortable for Cotto imo, why? because Mosley didn't get better, the change of an opponent did, stylistically more advantageous, not to mention he was allowed to hold excessively in the fight.

You could see that even against Cotto that Mosley's reflexes had gone, that he was blowing pretty hard at the end of the fight, like age was catching upto him big time, Cotto was hitting with clean punches and sliding underneath him, often leaving him looking to pick up counters that he was too slow to react to, swinging for then air cause he could not react, look at his timing in the Mayorga fight, of coarse that was at 154, but seriously, what stook out like a sore thumb in that fight was how poor Mosley's timing was, how off it was.

All this is why i said Mayweather would win, that it would not be competitive, as did Domincano.

[boojee]

you know that *****s are desperate or really impress with little Pacquiao when they start labeling WW Clottey and JMW Margarito tune up fights.

*****s are feeling Pac's Aura of Invincibility!!1

[Vito Corleone]

Yes, that guy. The guy who was beaten by Floyd's last victim, Mosley. Mosley, who was the victim of Pacqauio's 2nd to last conquest, Cotto. Cotto, the victim of Pacquaio's next opponent, Margarito.

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Did you see the Cotto-Mosley fight? I'd hardly call that a victimization... would you?

Not exactly a mauling, bud.

But i'm sure that plenty of peasants will buy the Pac-Margaret fight. Enough to line Master Bob's pockets.