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  • Originally posted by V-3 View Post
    Who is bashing him? I'm calling it what it is. Dude, has will have fought 2 guys this year that do NOTHING for him as a fighter. FACT. He's fighting two guys that have done NOTHING to warrant a fight with him. FACT. They are what they are, tune up fights. And, you can say what you want about Mayweather. Criticize him all you want, but at least state facts.
    What did Judah do to warrant a fight with Mayweather? he had just lost a journeyman FFS, least Mosley was a top fighter back in the day.


    They are'nt tune up fights because Marg's recent fights have not gone the way he would like, bottom line, is Marg is still a top line fighter irrespective of form, again, lets see Mayweather fight this so called tune up guy, he wont, he aint got the balls to, which he proved back when he ducked him for 8 mil.


    You aint stated facts, just your own perception.

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    • What did Judah do to warrant a fight with Mayweather? he had just lost a journeyman FFS, least Mosley was a top fighter back in the day.

      Fight was signed befor ebaldo zab fight. Same as Manny fighting morales after he lost to zahir raheem, fight was signed in advance.

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      • Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
        What did Judah do to warrant a fight with Mayweather? he had just lost a journeyman FFS, least Mosley was a top fighter back in the day.
        He was the undisputed champ before he had a blunder against Tata. They still felt that fight would be big although Judah was coming off a loss. In 2 fights, Floyd fought Zab and the guy that took the title from him.


        Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
        They are'nt tune up fights because Marg's recent fights have not gone the way he would like, bottom line, is Marg is still a top line fighter irrespective of form, again, lets see Mayweather fight this so called tune up guy, he wont, he aint got the balls to, which he proved back when he ducked him for 8 mil.


        You aint stated facts, just your own perception.


        What makes Tony a "top line fighter" NOW?

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        • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
          I'm no Mayweather apologist. Just because I support his want for OSTs against Pacquiao doesn't mean I wouldn't call him out on some BS. So please cut the bull**** and let's argue on the merit of the points. Not some *****/******* nonsense.

          Second, the Margarito who beat up Cotto probably doesn't exist. His last fight against Garcia was very, very unimpressive. And Garcia, for lack of a better term, sucks. It's unfair to say "When Mosley actually had something left" and then pretend as if Margarito didn't take more punches against Cotto & Mosley back to back then most fighters do their whole career. And it finally showed in his last fight.
          You support the OST? well let me ask you something, do you think Mayweather would of taken the OST, had Pac initially insinuated he was on steroids instead of vice versa? would he ***!!.

          According to you, he did not look too bad to me, infact his Boxing skills look to have improved.

          Marg is not tune up, do you think Holyfield was a tune up because he got chinned by Bowe 3 and looked like **** against Moorer? he knocked Mike Tyson's block off, your point about Marg being a tune up is mute.

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          • Originally posted by V-3 View Post
            He was the undisputed champ before he had a blunder against Tata. They still felt that fight would be big although Judah was coming off a loss. In 2 fights, Floyd fought Zab and the guy that took the title from him.






            What makes Tony a "top line fighter" NOW?
            On top of that, (This came out of Mayweather's mouth) he said he was suppose to face Judah on the night he faced Mitchell. So if Mayweather was preparing for a southpaw as it is, why not opt for Judah? Another thing I don't understand is that some people act like Baldomir dominated Judah. It was close.

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            • Originally posted by V-3 View Post
              He was the undisputed champ before he had a blunder against Tata. They still felt that fight would be big although Judah was coming off a loss. In 2 fights, Floyd fought Zab and the guy that took the title from him.




              What makes Tony a "top line fighter" NOW?
              Yeah before!!, so you want me to say Judah was credible because he was "undisputed champ", but also wont me to bring Marg's case to the point where he is now in his career, contradiction much?

              Bottom line is, fighters who are not at their best point in their careers can still turn it on and upset the perceived fav, provided they are a top line fighter, which Marg has been, hence the reason Mosley was expected to lose but it was not so shocking to see him win.
              Last edited by Dynamite Kid; 07-28-2010, 09:00 AM.

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              • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                Well it's 2010 and Margarito certainly doesn't deserve what he's getting now. And we don't deserve to watch a second straight tuneup on PPV. Disgraceful.
                it's amazing how this little pinoy fighting at featherweight a couple of years ago is making big Welter Weights and Junior Middle Weights look like tune up fights. priceless compliment to Pacquiao.

                thanks *****

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                • Originally posted by boojee View Post
                  it's amazing how this little pinoy fighting at featherweight a couple of years ago is making big Welter Weights and Junior Middle Weights look like tune up fights. priceless compliment to Pacquiao.

                  thanks *****
                  Goes to show what PEDs can do.

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                  • Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
                    You support the OST? well let me ask you something, do you think Mayweather would of taken the OST, had Pac initially insinuated he was on steroids instead of vice versa? would he ***!!.
                    I think that's moot since OST is for BOTH fighters. Let's not forget Floyd agreed to ALL of Manny's requests.

                    According to you, he did not look too bad to me, infact his Boxing skills look to have improved.
                    Well you and I see different. I don't think he's looked good in nearly two years and besides, who cares? Who can't look good against that guy? Making his performance even more damning.
                    Marg is not tune up, do you think Holyfield was a tune up because he got chinned by Bowe 3 and looked like **** against Moorer? he knocked Mike Tyson's block off, your point about Marg being a tune up is mute.
                    Considering Holyfield was a 25-1 underdog, what do you think? You do realize that was one of the greatest upsets in history right? LOL. Man oh man.

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                    • Originally posted by Akira Fudo View Post
                      Goes to show what PEDs can do.
                      aawww another compliment from a *****

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