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  • BoxingTech718
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    #41
    Originally posted by Pin Galarga
    If Pacman is the #1 P4P, is a welterweight and wants to show Why He's the #1 P4P, then I say Yes, He should accept the challenge and take on the giant. When did the #1 P4P had to choose beatable opponents to stay on the chair? There's responsability that comes with that title, specially in your weight class. If He can't fight William at 147, then He is not even the best at his weight and if He's not, then He's not the #1 P4P either. Period.
    Cosign either fight Williams or drop down. Don't act like a *****.

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    • Benny Leonard
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      #42
      Originally posted by whirlwind
      This fight will look like this specially at 154. You think this is a fair fight?
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      Do you think Ruiz and Holyfield fighting Valuev was fair?

      How about Tyson vs. Biggs, Tucker, Lewis, etc?

      How about Chris Byrd vs. Klitschkos and McCline?

      Dempsey vs. Willard?

      Sam Langford vs. Big" Bill Tate: 5'6 1/2 vs. 6'6. Plus, Tate was a HW.
      Langford vs. Bill Lang
      Langford vs. George Godfrey
      Langford vs. Harry Wills
      Langford vs. Jack Johnson
      Langford vs. Sam McVey (more so the weight in this one)
      And just remember where Langford started his career for weight and who he was up against.
      Last edited by Benny Leonard; 07-23-2010, 11:00 AM.

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      • whirlwind
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        #43
        Originally posted by Pin Galarga
        If Pacman is the #1 P4P, is a welterweight and wants to show Why He's the #1 P4P, then I say Yes, He should accept the challenge and take on the giant. When did the #1 P4P had to choose beatable opponents to stay on the chair? There's responsability that comes with that title, specially in your weight class. If He can't fight William at 147, then He is not even the best at his weight and if He's not, then He's not the #1 P4P either. Period.
        lol! Did you ever heard the name Floyd Mayweather Jr? That is what he did when he was a p4p #1. Did you know that Pac is 7 divisions champion? If your not idiot enough you will know that to be a 7 divisions champion you will not fighting the same size flyweight guy at super bantamweight, featherweight, super featherweight, lightweight, light welterweight and welterweight? You *****s can't get enough and will not stop until Pac loses so that finally you can say. I told you this midget is overrated!

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          #44

          bwahaahhaah!

          too bad real life isn't the movies.

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          • Benny Leonard
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            #45
            Originally posted by whirlwind
            lol! Did you ever heard the name Floyd Mayweather Jr? That is what he did when he was a p4p #1. Did you know that Pac is 7 divisions champion? If your not idiot enough you will know that to be a 7 divisions champion you will not fighting the same size flyweight guy at super bantamweight, featherweight, super featherweight, lightweight, light welterweight and welterweight? You *****s can't get enough and will not stop until Pac loses so that finally you can say. I told you this midget is overrated!
            7 division Champ isn't quite what it seems.
            We live in an era that has more belts and more divisions than prior years. And remember, fighters like Sam Langford weren't allowed to fight for what regard as "Titles." Imagine what he would have won or the many that came before this generation of fighters. And, remember, since there are more belts you can pick and chose who you like to fight just like Pac has done.

            But yes, Pac is a Great Champion anyway.

            Even with Floyd and the lineal titles, he may have won the lineal title at 147 (for example) but he did not fight the best in the division. That has to be looked at as well.

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              #46
              Manny Pacquiao
              the first and only man in boxing history who has
              7 divisions titles!
              4 lineal titles!
              pro boxer at the age of 16 from 106 up to 147!
              3 times fighter of the year and fighter of the decade!
              active boxer Congressman!
              and counting!

              Floyd Mayweather Jr
              5 titles in 5 weight classes, 4 lineal
              No catchweight title fights
              #1 p4p until he retired
              2 time fighter of the year
              Top Draw in Boxing right now

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                #47
                Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                Do you think Ruiz and Holyfield fighting Valuev was fair?

                How about Tyson vs. Biggs, Tucker, Lewis, etc?

                How about Chris Byrd vs. Klitschkos and McCline?

                Dempsey vs. Willard?

                Sam Langford vs. Big" Bill Tate: 5'6 1/2 vs. 6'6. Plus, Tate was a HW.
                Langford vs. Bill Lang
                Langford vs. George Godfrey
                Langford vs. Harry Wills
                Langford vs. Jack Johnson
                Langford vs. Sam McVey (more so the weight in this one)
                And just remember where Langford started his career for weight and who he was up against.
                Pac 3 fights at welterweight he weighed in between 142-144. Fight night he normally weighed in between 147-148. So think Williams will do the same? Go and do the math. Don't compare the lower weight classes to the heavyweight otherwise Williams should go there as he is taller than some of them. All he needs to do is eat and eat as he has the body frame to be there.
                Last edited by whirlwind; 07-23-2010, 11:20 AM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                  7 division Champ isn't quite what it seems.
                  We live in an era that has more belts and more divisions than prior years. And remember, fighters like Sam Langford weren't allowed to fight for what regard as "Titles." Imagine what he would have won or the many that came before this generation of fighters. And, remember, since there are more belts you can pick and chose who you like to fight just like Pac has done.

                  But yes, Pac is a Great Champion anyway.

                  Even with Floyd and the lineal titles, he may have won the lineal title at 147 (for example) but he did not fight the best in the division. That has to be looked at as well.
                  Benny unless you want the pac nation's wrath don't tell them the truth. Don't mention that the IBC, WBO, IBA, weren't around then and that there wer fewer divisions. Hell, the IBF wasn't around until 1980's.

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                  • whirlwind
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn
                    Manny Pacquiao
                    the first and only man in boxing history who has
                    7 divisions titles!
                    4 lineal titles!
                    pro boxer at the age of 16 from 106 up to 147!
                    3 times fighter of the year and fighter of the decade!
                    active boxer Congressman!
                    and counting!

                    Floyd Mayweather Jr
                    5 titles in 5 weight classes, 4 lineal
                    No catchweight title fights = catchweight is a catchweight no matter how you spin it. More so if you cheated the old man on the scale in a supposed catchweight.
                    #1 p4p until he retired
                    2 time fighter of the year
                    Top Draw in Boxing right now
                    I fixed for you.

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                    • BoxingTech718
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Big Dunn
                      Benny unless you want the pac nation's wrath don't tell them the truth. Don't mention that the IBC, WBO, IBA, weren't around then and that there wer fewer divisions. Hell, the IBF wasn't around until 1980's.
                      Oh no you guys said the unmentionable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The legion of doom will now come for your souls.

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