Just watched Toney vs Jirov again..

[masterdirector]

After watching the fight for a second time, it was truly something else. Defintley the best crusierweight fight Ive seen in a while. I disagreed with Ledermans score card through out the whole fight and from listening to him rant felt bad for Jirov so looked for some rounds to score to him. I ended up scoring it 115-113 Toney but I agree with the judges wider gap. Every round Toney outlanded Jirov but was not the agressor (not Toneys style). The best part though was the end interview when Lampley was basically yelling at Toney "James please answer the questions we're on TV!". James was yelling at Chris Byrd for a good ammount of the interview. Overall it was one of the best fights Ive see and I was just wondering does anyone else see the scoring any different?

Toney beat Jirov soundly. Its been a while, but I remember I thought he won most of the rounds. And the rounds he won, he won them more clearly than the rounds Jirov won. I see no need for a rematch. Especially since Toney is a full fledged heavyweight and Jirov is a full fledged joke now. Toney has bigger fish to fry.

Jirov is more skilled than the Klitschkos, although that isn't saying much.

[ricecrispi]

Still if it's 10-10 tie thats fine but you should keep it consistent 9-9 tie because winner gets a point, tie means no points = 9-9.
Still it should be 110 score with the knockdown because it's a 10-8 round. I'm sorry for poping my collar. I just get pissed when people score fights wrong.

You remember what happen to Pacman. He got robbed because the judge scored it wrong. That is why I take scoring very important. I was a boxer so I take it very seriously. Evertime a fighter gets in the ring he will get a beating and leave a part of himself in that ring. I think the least we can do is score fights correct and fairly. Hardest thing to shallow for a fighter is a bad descision and only worse when someone scores it wrong and you could win!!!

I see alot of scores like the end of the Toney fight and the scoring was ******. If it's a judge, it's unexcusable. They should get thrown in the ring and let the two guys beat you. 9 rounds to 3 in a close fight is ridic. The person can't even deduct points correctly. Banned that judge 4 life.

The fight wasn't a tie with a knockdown and deduction. People listen to Lederman too much and he's is a moron and should go to a nursing home and stay there. I swear the man gets back to the home and they give him warm milk and cookies before they tuck him into bed and put on a pair of Depends. Geriatric old fart, I wish I could mute him.

He knows nothing about scoring a fight. He looks to see who lands more shots and a occasional powershot. He always thinks the aggressor is winning. Lederman can only score obvious rounds and close ones he is easily fooled because his eyes can't keep up with the fast action. He can't even see when people miss punches or who throws a harder punch because his eyes are older than the Ming dynasty.

For Jirov to win with two points deduction is ridic with an even round because it's an eleven round fight then. You have to win 7-4 and get knocked two points for 5-4 win. That is a 2rounds for everone in a close fight.

I had a tie round, 7 rounds Toney to 4 rounds Jirov and 2 pts deduced for blow and knockdown. 115-110 Toney in a close fight but easy to score fight.

Looks like a close fight but Jirov throws low blow from frustration. after you will see he is less active, punchers are weaker and have less effect on Toney. Body punchs are fewer and he is getting weaker and Toney is getting more aggresive because of that.

[Slipx]

The best part though was the end interview when Lampley was basically yelling at Toney "James please answer the questions we're on TV!". James was yelling at Chris Byrd for a good ammount of the interview.

That's Toney's way of saying '**** you, lampley' to lampley. He called them **** in a bathroom interview. It's hilarious the way he knows they have to get some kind of response from him, so he manipulates the camera time, just so people who know him in real life laugh their asses off.(and even fans like myself find it funny as well).. I love that guy. It's clear that he's just a little bit racist though,(towards whiteys) but that's okay I really don't blame him one bit..


Man you should have seen his interview with Jim Grey I think his name is? The dorky ****er who interviewed Tyson after Etienne , the 'spinal' interview. Man, he punked that dude out. Grey ****ed up by asking him something trying to discredit Evander holyfield i forgot exactly what he said, man toney got furious like he was about to drop grey and grey moved over to the other corner 'we're gonna have a word with evander now' moving away nonchalantly before toney pulled a butler on him.

[ricecrispi]

Toney kinda of racist, LoL.

He is one but not a bad one.
He'll make jokes about mexicans blacks, whites, asains, etc.
The man has it out for everyone, no one is safe, even a 3 yr kid isn't. The guy has more smack on him than a Mexican Cartel drug LOrd

One thing i don't like about Toney is he takes his arguements too far.
Sometimes he gets into fights outside of gyms and they get heated. It sometimes flows into the gym and guys say they going to bring more peeps over and throw down and Toney talks about pulling out guns and setting it off. I heard a guy got arrested at Wildcard in a fight or argument with Toney. Toney is straight up ******.

[DiegoFuego]

I don't think Toney's that racist myself. He just hates phony fighters, and there's nothing wrong with that. I ALMOST hate Byrd and Vitali as much as Toney claims to on the grounds that they are fraud champions. Toney will beat them both if given the opportunity. I guarantee it.

[ricecrispi]

No, his racist. Flat out but he ain't like a bigot he's just realistic because thats the world we live in.

He make jokes about mexican pickin strawberries and running the border jokes to mexican boxers or tells them if they don't spar with him and they duck him he'll call imigrantion so they have sometihing else to duck. Talks about cotton pick ******s and has a ton of chicken head jokes about black girls or his whigger jokes about enimem wannabe's and makes fun of white people walking around with butt plugs. He has a couple of asian one about calculating numbers to be better boxers that i didn't like but was funny.

[Michael Wittmann]

Who's a basketball player?

james toney is just another punchy ****in basketball player.

hes no match for the more skilled, clasically educated, bloodthirsty lumberjacks marching into the scene by way of germany lately, if you havent noticed..

dr brandt. taking care of idiots since september '39..

yeah, and i want to make this abselutely clear..! even if he does say jehova!!