lederman had it right there was a point deducted from, jirov and a KD, i scored it 7-5 jirov but had it a draw at 113-113
Just watched Toney vs Jirov again..
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lolOriginally posted by SturmRuleslederman had it right there was a point deducted from, jirov and a KD, i scored it 7-5 jirov but had it a draw at 113-113
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Originally posted by SturmRuleslederman had it right there was a point deducted from, jirov and a KD, i scored it 7-5 jirov but had it a draw at 113-113
Ahahahaha. Lederman had the most incorrect card EVER. Go back and watch the 6th and 7th rounds and you tell me who wins those. Lederman actually has the stones to give those rounds to Jirov. Such a joke. Toney severely outlanded Jirov in BOTH of those rounds in power punches...it wasn't even close.Last edited by oldgringo; 07-13-2005, 11:42 AM.Comment
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Like many of you said, I had the fight really close. Judges were basically dismissing Jirov's body punching efforts. Especially when he stunned Toney. I had the fight 7 rounds to 5 in favor of Toney, and without the knockdown it would have came out even at a draw. When I watched it the second time, I noticed how many punches Jirov landed downstairs, then upstairs. He landed alot of good hook shots on Toney's chin.....but then again, it was hard to tell because Toney has a great chin. Toney landed the better shots though, and fought a mediocre fight compared to what he is capable of. That was not Toney's true best, and I think was Jirov's.
Toney won the fight because of his accurate punching, and effective agressivness. Jirov put up a hell of a fight, but he was unfortunate to have been knocked down late.
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Fight was close despite the knockdown, and it showed why Toney is about as durable an S.O.B. as you will find in boxing.
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Originally posted by RunWithKnivesFight was close despite the knockdown, and it showed why Toney is about as durable an S.O.B. as you will find in boxing.
....Scores were defintely too wide but that last round won it for Toney in my book. Without that 12th round dominance due to the KD I would have probably had it as a draw as well. Toney did impress me because I thought Jirov was making him work so hard that he was running out of gas and was gonna be in trouble. Toney is a skilled fool for sure.Comment
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yea,Originally posted by pbds....Scores were defintely too wide but that last round won it for Toney in my book. Without that 12th round dominance due to the KD I would have probably had it as a draw as well. Toney did impress me because I thought Jirov was making him work so hard that he was running out of gas and was gonna be in trouble. Toney is a skilled fool for sure.
still hes a ****in basketball player and hes no match for a doctor..
dr brandt, taking care of idiots since september `39..
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Originally posted by scapI had the fight very close and thought the 117-111 card was out of line.
Toney certainly won that fight but it was Jirov who made that fight!
Doesn't matter who made the fight, Toney looked comfortable the whole fight and Jirov wasn't as effective as his other fights.
Toney looked to counter and was very successful as Jirov was slowly down visibly through and hurt several times. Toney threw to the body just as well as Jirov.
Jirov didn't not land many clean punchs and few clean "HBO power shots" except to the body. Because of the style Toney uses the punchs land on shoulder or his chest and gloves before hitting the face. Takes away the power of the punch.
I still don't agree on the score card. Way off..... You can't get that score for that fight!!
Boxing scoring 101
Max pts in a fight = 120 12x10=120
Jirov Vs. Toney score 117-111
6 point lead is 9 rounds to 3 but thats wrong
Toney's score =117
10x12=120 points total-3=117
Toney gets 9 rounds in a close fight is impossible.
9x10= 90 + (9x3)=117
Jirov's score
10x3=30 + (9x9)= 81+20= 111 - 1 knockdown = 110 The score doesn't even add up right.
Tie round scenario
Toney loses a point and wins 8 rounds
8x10= 80 + (4x9) = 116
Jirov
3x10= 30 + (9x9) = 111- 1KD =110
Jirov wins 4 rounds scenario
4x10= 40 + (8x9) = 112 -1kd =111
Toney gets 8x10= 80 + (4x9) = 116 and 115 if they tie a round
People really need to learn how to add score cards. How can you be a judge and not know how to score rounds
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"6-4-1 going into the 12th, and 7-4-1 with the KD when all was said and done. "
That doesn't add up moron.
it's 7-3-1 because of the knock down you lose a point so Toney wins by 4 points. Learn how to add rounds before you post how you score a fight. To think you watch it 10 times and didn't see your GLARRING mistake. I saw it in a split second.Comment
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Correct way to scoreOriginally posted by DiegoFuegoIt was a close fight in that there were close rounds, but Toney was winning the rounds, and that's the only thing that matters in boxing. I had it 8 rounds to 4, 116-111 with the knockdown. Toney by clear, hard fought decision
Toney
8x10 + (4x9) = 116
Jirov
4x10 + (8x9) = 112 - 1 KD = 111 !!Comment
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