Just watched Toney vs Jirov again..

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  • MetalVomit
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    #31
    Originally posted by Michael Wittmann
    yea,

    still hes a ****in basketball player and hes no match for a doctor..

    dr brandt, taking care of idiots since september `39..

    Who's a basketball player?

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    • anwaryussuf81
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      #32
      toney/Jirov was probably fight of the year in most people eyes.

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      • oldgringo
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        #33
        Originally posted by ricecrispi
        Doesn't matter who made the fight, Toney looked comfortable the whole fight and Jirov wasn't as effective as his other fights.
        Toney looked to counter and was very successful as Jirov was slowly down visibly through and hurt several times. Toney threw to the body just as well as Jirov.

        Jirov didn't not land many clean punchs and few clean "HBO power shots" except to the body. Because of the style Toney uses the punchs land on shoulder or his chest and gloves before hitting the face. Takes away the power of the punch.

        I still don't agree on the score card. Way off..... You can't get that score for that fight!!



        Boxing scoring 101

        Max pts in a fight = 120 12x10=120
        Jirov Vs. Toney score 117-111
        6 point lead is 9 rounds to 3 but thats wrong

        Toney's score =117
        10x12=120 points total-3=117
        Toney gets 9 rounds in a close fight is impossible.
        9x10= 90 + (9x3)=117

        Jirov's score
        10x3=30 + (9x9)= 81+20= 111 - 1 knockdown = 110 The score doesn't even add up right.

        Tie round scenario

        Toney loses a point and wins 8 rounds
        8x10= 80 + (4x9) = 116

        Jirov
        3x10= 30 + (9x9) = 111- 1KD =110

        Jirov wins 4 rounds scenario
        4x10= 40 + (8x9) = 112 -1kd =111
        Toney gets 8x10= 80 + (4x9) = 116 and 115 if they tie a round

        People really need to learn how to add score cards. How can you be a judge and not know how to score rounds

        oldgringo quote

        "6-4-1 going into the 12th, and 7-4-1 with the KD when all was said and done. "

        That doesn't add up moron.
        it's 7-3-1 because of the knock down you lose a point so Toney wins by 4 points. Learn how to add rounds before you post how you score a fight. To think you watch it 10 times and didn't see your GLARRING mistake. I saw it in a split second.


        I scored the fight 7-4-1 for Toney as far as rounds go. 12 was a 10-8 round, and 8 was a 9-9 round since Jirov won the round, but had a point deducted for the low blows.

        I had james winning 1, 3, 5, 6, 7, 10, 12

        I had Jirov winning 2, 4, 8, 11

        The 9th round was a 10-10 draw in my book.

        The 8th round was the Jirov point deduction but he won the round.

        So...

        Toney: 8x10 = 80, 4x9 = 36 - 116 for James

        Jirov: 4x10 = 40, 7x9 = 63, 1x8 = 8 - 111 for Jirov

        So as I finish up all of that tedious work, my question to you is, WHAT THE **** ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
        Last edited by oldgringo; 07-13-2005, 09:56 PM.

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        • stepmonster
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          #34
          i had toney 115 113

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          • stepmonster
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            #35
            i thought that the 12th round was one of the most memorable of all time

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            • BadMagick
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              #36
              Originally posted by oldgringo
              I scored the fight 7-4-1 for Toney as far as rounds go. 12 was a 10-8 round, and 8 was a 9-9 round since Jirov won the round, but had a point deducted for the low blows.

              I had james winning 1, 3, 5, 6, 7, 10, 12

              I had Jirov winning 2, 4, 8, 11

              The 9th round was a 10-10 draw in my book.

              The 8th round was the Jirov point deduction but he won the round.

              So...

              Toney: 8x10 = 80, 4x9 = 36 - 116 for James

              Jirov: 4x10 = 40, 7x9 = 63, 1x8 = 8 - 111 for Jirov

              So as I finish up all of that tedious work, my question to you is, WHAT THE **** ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
              You had Toney winning 7, not 8 rounds, that's where you're messing up. 7-4-1, not 8-4. Your Toney score should be 115.

              7x10 = 70. 9x5 = 45 (5 because the tied round is a 9-9). 70+45 = 115.

              Jirov at 4-7-1 4x10 = 40 8x9=72 72+40=112-1=111. So, your score should be 115-111, either way, you were a point off, and it was a simple mistake. Nothing to jump on someone's nuts about.

              Originally posted by stepmonster
              i thought that the 12th round was one of the most memorable of all time
              I just saw the fight recently, and it was one hell of a fight. I was damn impressed with Toney's ability to pull that out in the last seconds. It was a close fight, but I didn't score it, so... Had I scored it, I would have given 7 to Toney. He just had the more effective, cleaner shots. Ledderman was plain wrong for giving that to Jirov.

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              • oldgringo
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                #37
                Originally posted by BadMagick
                You had Toney winning 7, not 8 rounds, that's where you're messing up. 7-4-1, not 8-4. Your Toney score should be 115.

                7x10 = 70. 9x5 = 45 (5 because the tied round is a 9-9). 70+45 = 115.

                Jirov at 4-7-1 4x10 = 40 8x9=72 72+40=112-1=111. So, your score should be 115-111, either way, you were a point off, and it was a simple mistake. Nothing to jump on someone's nuts about.



                I just saw the fight recently, and it was one hell of a fight. I was damn impressed with Toney's ability to pull that out in the last seconds. It was a close fight, but I didn't score it, so... Had I scored it, I would have given 7 to Toney. He just had the more effective, cleaner shots. Ledderman was plain wrong for giving that to Jirov.

                I always thought tied rounds are 10 - 10 unless there are deductions.

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                • BadMagick
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by oldgringo
                  I always thought tied rounds are 10 - 10 unless there are deductions.
                  I'm assuming you had the round where Jirov had the low blow as the tie, but maybe not. If so, that'd be the deduction, the low blow deduction.

                  If it's not, then yeah, you're right. I don't remember what round that was in, though.

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                  • sisforshaq
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by oldgringo
                    I always thought tied rounds are 10 - 10 unless there are deductions.
                    Jirov had the point taken away which made the round 10-9 Toney.. then Toney lost the round which made the round 9-9. Jirov won the round but had a point taken away so they tied at 9-9.

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                    • oldgringo
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by sisforshaq
                      Jirov had the point taken away which made the round 10-9 Toney.. then Toney lost the round which made the round 9-9. Jirov won the round but had a point taken away so they tied at 9-9.

                      I'm talking about the 9th round though. The point deduction came in the 8th round.

                      I scored the 9th round dead even, a 10-10 round. The 8th round I had 9-9.

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