You can't have it both ways

[The Big Dunn]

Genero Hernandez and Diego Corrales are not wins that I think make you the best all time. Quality wins yes but make you the best all time no!

Henandez is a HOF who had 8 title defenses in a row. Floyd beat him when he was 21 yrs old. Thats an accomplishment. Corrales was undefeated and considered the best at the weight. Castillo was the lineal and undisputed champ. Floyd gets more credit because he was so young when he beat these vets.

[Cherry Picker]

Fine. But Margarito and cotto in 2005 were not great ww's. Niether was clottey, berto williams or manny. Cotto was the best of this group at that point but he was still the jr ww champ. he had not yet fully campaigned at 147.

This is why I think you are holding floyd to an impossible standard. It;s like you are inflating the value of the guys he didn't fight. I get why you don't think he is the best and why you don't like him.

But purposely undervaluing his resume at 147?

Floyd is nowhere near the greatest of all time. If he and his fans want to think that then fine.

[pistol whip]

pistol you may be right. Manny may want it more but IMO its because he can earn 3x his biggest payday to date. Its not because he wants to prove himself against the best.

Oh come on now this is a natural LW fighting in the welterweight division and even wants Junior Middleweight fights. Seriously anyone that gives up that much size consistantly isn't scared of any man.

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd is nowhere near the greatest of all time. If he and his fans want to think that then fine.

I guess you prefer not to address my points as I have yours.

[The Big Dunn]

Oh come on now this is a natural LW fighting in the welterweight division and even wants Junior Middleweight fights. Seriously anyone that gives up that much size consistantly isn't scared of any man.

But floyd moved up just like manny. Isn't floyd a natural lw too? he already has fought at 154. So therfore he isn't scared right?

[pistol whip]

Henandez is a HOF who had 8 title defenses in a row. Floyd beat him when he was 21 yrs old. Thats an accomplishment. Corrales was undefeated and considered the best at the weight. Castillo was the lineal and undisputed champ. Floyd gets more credit because he was so young when he beat these vets.

Hernandez also fought in a division known for being wasteland of Talent and like i said he was a good fighter but not that good. Corrales again was proven to be a fighter with a tons of holes in his game and so was JLC. Dont get me wrong they were all brilliant fighters but they wernt exactly what Joe Frasier was to Ali.

[Cherry Picker]

I guess you prefer not to address my points as I have yours.

You are a blatant Mayweather apologist. You care more about Floyd's ego than making the fight happen.

[pistol whip]

But floyd moved up just like manny. Isn't floyd a natural lw too? he already has fought at 154. So therfore he isn't scared right?

No Floyds a Natural Welterweight now come on you didn't notice how he towered over JMM who is LW himself. Floyds fighting in the correct division for his size while it's obvious Pac is not.

[The Big Dunn]

Hernandez also fought in a division known for being wasteland of Talent and like i said he was a good fighter but not that good. Corrales again was proven to be a fighter with a tons of holes in his game and so was JLC. Dont get me wrong they were all brilliant fighters but they wernt exactly what Joe Frasier was to Ali.

Genaro is in the HOF. No he isn't as good as Frazier. Oh you mean where they are right now. I think Pac is a 140lber. Floyd is bigger right now.

[The Big Dunn]

You are a blatant Mayweather apologist. You care more about Floyd's ego than making the fight happen.

No cherry I just don't agree with you and am asking you how you reached your opinion. I know its tough to defend your opinion because its rooted in I hate floyd not fact.

I never said floyd was the greatest of all time because I don't think he is. I think anyone who calls him a ducker would have done the EXACT same thing floyd did at 147 and damn sure would've fought ODH at 154 for $30 mil instead of clottey.

You can't defend your point so I'm a floyd apologist.