You can't have it both ways

[The Big Dunn]

How can the thread be owned by a pathetic excuse for not fighting the best?

But isn't manny's excuses for not testing and therefore not fighting equivalent to floyd changing the demands and not fighting?

You seem to suggest that if floyd were humble like you believe manny is then you would give him the respect he's earned. Is that what you are saying?

[Cherry Picker]

But isn't manny's excuses for not testing and therefore not fighting equivalent to floyd changing the demands and not fighting?

You seem to suggest that if floyd were humble like you believe manny is then you would give him the respect he's earned. Is that what you are saying?

You can't call yourself the greatest if you don't fight the best. Ali called himself the greatest but backed up his mouth, and fought the best. Next question?

[pistol whip]

So because floyd is arrogant and has a high opinion of himself he has to prove himself against pac. But pac,who reached the top p4p spot only in floyd's abscence doesn't have to? That seems a little unequal.

Pac's not the one calling himself the greatest of all time now is he. "im better than suger ray robinson" nevermind suger ray's level of compatition was light years better than any fighter Money ever fought in his career.

Money has the chance to actually prove what he says over and over again and from a nutral stand point it gets a little tired to see him find a way out of the challange.

[Cherry Picker]

Pac's not the one calling himself the greatest of all time now is he. "im better than suger ray robinson" nevermind suger ray's level of compatition was light years better than any fighter Money ever fought in his career.

Money has the chance to actually prove what he says over and over again and from a nutral stand point it gets a little tired to see him find a way out of the challange.

Excellent post. Floyd's fans don't agree, and never will. Floyd is the greatest to them no matter what he does, or who he fights.

[The Big Dunn]

Pac's not the one calling himself the greatest of all time now is he. "im better than suger ray robinson" nevermind suger ray's level of compatition was light years better than any fighter Money ever fought in his career.

Money has the chance to actually prove what he says over and over again and from a nutral stand point it gets a little tired to see him find a way out of the challange.

Pistol does that really matter. It seems you are suggesting if floyd were humble, given the same resume, you might think of him differently. Are you saying that?

If you are, then there is nothing left to be said.

[The Big Dunn]

Excellent post. Floyd's fans don't agree, and never will. Floyd is the greatest to them no matter what he does, or who he fights.

Cherry who hasn't floyd fought that if he had fought, you would have a different opinion?

[pistol whip]

But isn't manny's excuses for not testing and therefore not fighting equivalent to floyd changing the demands and not fighting?

OSDT is an unpresedented demand! You can't compare something that has never been done ever in the history of the sport to disagreements over money which has been part of boxing for over a hundred years. Sure it's been asked for before but when the other fighter said no there wasn't all this bitching and moaning they just went ahead and fought anyways.

Seriously stop acting like OSDT is this routine thing that everyone does on the weekend.

[The Big Dunn]

You can't call yourself the greatest if you don't fight the best. Ali called himself the greatest but backed up his mouth, and fought the best. Next question?

Fair point ali fought the best of his era. Who should floyd have fought such that he could make this claim IYO?

[The Big Dunn]

OSDT is an unpresedented demand! You can't compare something that has never been done ever in the history of the sport to disagreements over money which has been part of boxing for over a hundred years. Sure it's been asked for before but when the other fighter said no there wasn't all this bitching and moaning they just went ahead and fought anyways.

Seriously stop acting like OSDT is this routine thing that everyone does on the weekend.

The point is pistol both fighters have excuses that seem lame.

[Cherry Picker]

Cherry who hasn't floyd fought that if he had fought, you would have a different opinion?

He has been at welter for 5 years. In that time he could have fought Margarito, Cotto, Paul Williams, Clottey, Berto and more recently Pacman. He fights Hatton and Marquez. Both smaller fighters. Sorry but that don't cut it for me.